I got the magazine today. Saw where they mentioned it was not close to qualifying for the finals. Was there another 50 year old, Factory headed, engine that did? I must have missed the 283 with power pack heads that won!! 

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Barry: Yes, the start of the PHR 1970 series is a bit confusing. Apparently there was a discussion on the direction for the series in earlier issues. Then the preamble started in April & June of 1970. (with a referral to a Quick Reference chart in Oct. 1969.) The actual project started in the August 1970 issue, then October. Then ? .... through to May 1971. Even though the series is to a large extent obsolete & contains some questionable direction, it's interesting reading, (if you can find copies) especially in light of later more accurate information. I only have 2 issues of the series but two things they did undoubtedly hurt performance, one was double chamfering the tops of the cylinders, which would have lowered the compression considerably & the use of the Offenhauser Tri Power intake, which was likely the worst intake they could have picked. Unfortunately, in historical hind site it was just another undeserved black eye for our favorite engine...

Paul

Hi     I have 4 issues ..... June '70,  Aug '70, Oct'70 and the dyno issue May'71. They chose C heads,opting to do relieving to unshroud larger 348 scrub valves aiming for a G type chamber,Engle cam#324 ,.480 lift,duration 292degrees.  The series was hard to follow ....June was partII,Oct was part 2, Aug was called the introduction. They used Jahns domed pistons and notched the tops of the bores for valve clearance ...  .060 over 312 .    Barry

Barry: Also that was the series that was delayed some, when they overtightened the main bolts & cracked the block! It wasn't until years later that there was an article in YBM about Y-block intakes, that clued us in to the main reason PHR had so much trouble getting decent power out of the project engine. It was the Offy intake, which had an inferior internal design. Undoubtedly the engine would have done much better with a 4 Bbl on a 57 intake. Anyway, I only have two issues from that series. I believe the preamble started in April of 1970. If it's not to much trouble, can you post the issue dates? Thanks..

Paul

Frank     Back in 1970,Popular hotscrubbing did a series called "Project Y-Block Ford"....it was to rival their  57 scrub project X. They said they would put it in a 57 T-Bird. There was never any mention of it after they dynoed the engine at a "surprising 258 hp" with the "best ever induction system....the offy 3x2 ". I still have these old magazines...Project Y died....Project X however , carried on and must have gone thru every possible incarnation of scrub engine and trans ever made for the next ten years. If only..... If anyone is interested in the Y details of the build up, I'll re-read the issues I have and can post them . Never did make the cover of any issues I own!   Barry L

Don't laugh, I considered using multiple valve angles on the new heads but with shaft mounted rockers you're very limited by what you can do. With no oil to the lifter bores you can't oil through the pushrods so that makes individual rockers very difficult. The rocker studs attach the valve covers so you can't move the rocker shafts very far. After a while you realize you're pretty well boxed in by the original design.

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Ted deserves every accolade we can give him - it is quite an acomplishment to achieve those power levels with a sturdy old war horse. It takes hours of careful work to push the envelope as far as he went and keep it together. He needs some better heads to work with.......

On the other end of the scale in this competition - it is interesting to see the power Jon Kaase has gotten out of the the other antique Ford (400M) - by using the Cleveland head design - and the chebbie guys still can't get there.

We need some Boss heads for the Y-block.

 
 Steve Metzger       Tucson, Arizona

All I can say is , its about time!! Congragulations Ted and everyone that partnered up and helped with the project. If I read right the hightest horsepower was 429?? Kind of hard to tell looking at it sideways. 400 plus H.P. period is very very impressive to me on any kind of Y.  I sure hope this opens a few eye's on the Y for the rest of the Hot Rodding community.

       

Michael

Sandy Valley, NV

I am still amazed at the numbers, Ted - You Da Man!!! great stuff.

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Y Blocks, The New Flathead!

Awesome! How long do you suppose it's been since a Y-block was on the cover of Popular (chevy) Rodding?  If ever?

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart)