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55blacktie
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Has anyone used the Cometic MLS head gaskets vs, Best? The Cometic gaskets are expensive, but they come in various thicknesses and the bore size is smaller. I calculated the Cometic 3.86-bore gasket/w .040 compressed thickness to have a volume of 7.67 cc vs 10.00 cc for the standard bore Best. Wouldn't the Cometic 3.86 bore size be more than large enough for a cylinder bore size of 3.81? Generally speaking, shouldn't the gasket bore size be 0.030-0.060 larger than the the cylinder bore?
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Joe-JDC
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I would ask if the Cometic gasket if made for Mummert heads or the stock iron heads. The Mummert heads keep the combustion chambers almost completely in the bore on the larger size bores. You don't want gasket material in the combustion chamber. Just a thought. Joe-JDC
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55blacktie
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Good suggestion, Joe.
I'm not concerned about high pressure from supercharging (NA application), but I don't want to leave compression on the table, particularly with flat-top pistons.
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The surfaces on the MLS style gasket needs to be to a specific “smoothness” . I have used them to lower compression on an Alcohol engine to run racing gas and it’s been trouble free.
56 Vic, B'Ville 200 MPH Club Member, So Cal.
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55blacktie
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DLR, do you remember the bore size of the gaskets you used and specific application?
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55blacktie (7/1/2023) ....Wouldn't the Cometic 3.86 bore size be more than large enough for a cylinder bore size of 3.81? Generally speaking, shouldn't the gasket bore size be 0.030-0.060 larger than the cylinder bore?It’s desirable that the actual bore size of the gaskets exceeds the bore of the engine by at least 0.030-0.060” just to ensure that compression of the head gasket does not push the sealing ring into the cylinder bore. That brings up the point of whether the bore size of the gasket is actually 3.860” or if designed for a 3.860” bore. If designed for a 3.860” bore, then the gasket will be slightly larger than that. If you do not have the gaskets already on hand in which measure, then that would be a question for the gasket manufacturer.
 Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)
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55Blacktie..the bore was 4.045” and the gaskets were for 4.060”. The compression was 14.1-1 and with the help of the the compression ratio calculator I use on the Keith Black piston site here on the net I lowered the compression ratio to 13-1 by the thickness of the gaskets available from Cometic. I hand stoned the surfaces on the block and heads as the engine was done for Felpro blue gaskets. May not have been the exact correct way to do it but it was pretty close. The engine is a back up for our Super Stock dirt track car.
56 Vic, B'Ville 200 MPH Club Member, So Cal.
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55blacktie
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Those are some serious numbers, DLR. You must have sleeved the block to get 4.045.
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Joe-JDC
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Those dimensions are from another engine family. A Y block will not accept 8 sleeves that size and still have any strength to stay together without leaking everywhere. Joe-JDC
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55blacktie
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I did wonder about that because Ted didn't have success with a 4-inch bore.
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