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55 ford fairlane neg ground

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Ive been doing a lot of research and I have found that my car is supposed to be positive ground, well its got the positive battery lead going to the solenoid and the negative is going to the block. I have taken the neg lead off until I can get this sorted out. I know nothing about positive ground or how to tell which way is the right ground for the car. The gen light glow dimly after you start it and the temp gauge is staying on hot with the battery off. All the lights are working. The guy I bought the car from doesn't know very much about cars and wouldn't be any help.

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the battery lead going to the solenoid goes on the negative post on the battery. in other words the battery goes in backwards
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yes thats what I have found out, but before I change the battery leads for positive ground I need to find out what to check if the car has been modified to neg ground. The coil is wired with a wire going from the neg post of the coil to the distributor, and when running the battery is charging, its about 6.8 volts or so when running. There is another wire going from the neg side of the coil that I can trace to the firewall then its leads to under the car we are in deer hunting mode and I cant lift the car up to find out where it ends, also there is some type of relay on the firewall that has a ground wire going to the motor and I dont know if its getting hot but most of the insulation is gone.
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The relay on the firewall belongs to the OD. When you test drove it did you try the OD?
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It's not a real problem to run a 6 volt negative ground system. Usually, gauges are not polarity sensitive and if I remember correctly the temp gauge is right - hot with no power, cold when first giving it power.. Stock radio could be a problem with negative ground. Starter is not polarity sensitive. Not sure about polarity  on an overdrive. (if you have it).


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Ive been doing a lot of research and I have found that my car is supposed to be positive ground, well its got the positive battery lead going to the solenoid and the negative is going to the block. I have taken the neg lead off until I can get this sorted out. I know nothing about positive ground or how to tell which way is the right ground for the car. The gen light glow dimly after you start it and the temp gauge is staying on hot with the battery off. All the lights are working. The guy I bought the car from doesn't know very much about cars and wouldn't be any help.





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The OD is not polarity sensitive.
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yes I did and the overdrive worked, I didnt try the high speed kick down prob wont use anyway. So I can leave like it is or what is your recommendations?
and what about the od relay wire that is missing insulation? Guess I can fire her up like it is and see if that wire is getting hot?
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If it's working and you're happy with it you can leave it as is. Suggest you replace the wire going from the relay to the coil if the insulation is deteriorated. That's part of the kickdown system; it grounds the ignition for about 1/2 a revolution when you hit the kickdown switch to remove driving torque from the OD so the solenoid armature can withdraw from the drive plate. If the insulation is gone you could get unwanted grounding from the bare wire contacting metal. There's no current on that wire, it's just a ground.
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Phew thanks dobie, Its the ground wire going from the od relay to the block, Ill post a pic tomorrow, Thanks again I really appreciate your knowledge
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FYI.  When I purchased my 55 Tbird, I discovered a previous owner had already converted it to 12 volts but they left the ground positive. After much consternation, I decided to switch to a negative ground.  This turned out to be no more than switching the battery cables and reflashing the voltage regulator. Everything worked except the radio.  It had been modified to work with a positive ground, so I disconnected it.  If you wish to keep your car stock, I can appreciate that.  If you convert to 12 volts, know that your 6 volt starter, generator, O/D solenoid and most everything else will work.  Six volt electronics use much larger wiring and are very robust. My horns are still 6 volt and they are now very loud.  The biggest problem with six volt systems these days is getting anyone to work on them.  Years ago, there was an auto electric shop on every street corner.  Finding one now is like hunting for Unicorns.


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