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So I have a PCV set up on my 292.  The PCV valve is on the rear of the valley pan and feeds back into the intake.  The fresh air goes from the air cleaner base to the oil fill cap but it is the open element type with perforations under it and a hose connector. 

I am getting oil up under my hood near the hinge from it.  Should I have a closed cap with just the hose attachment.  

Should the other valve cover be vented some how?  They are the finned Spotlite Customs finned covers.

What did I done do wrong?

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Any chance of photo(s) showing the install?



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the breather at the filler tube should not have a vacuum source. with a pcv creating a vacuum in the valley restricts oil return to the sump. in my case I have no spill tubes on rocker shafts so lots of oil I found I had to remove the pcv valve, routed the hose into th air cleaner carb side of air cleaner.
my take is Ys wher never intended to have blow by taken into the intake, or fitting in carb base. I think if the spill tubes are left in the rockers you could get away. my opinion is lots of oil too the rockers as well as valve train makes for longer life esp camshaft and valve train
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Should I have a closed cap with just the hose attachment.


Yes, closed filler cap with fresh air intake tube to ACL.

Should the other valve cover be vented some how? 


Not needed.

The fresh air source will not affect the internal baffling and ventilation of the crankcase if there is no blow-by..

Would still like to see photo(s) of the install. Most are not done correctly (IMO).



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Should I have a closed cap with just the hose attachment.


Yes, closed filler cap with fresh air intake tube to ACL.

Should the other valve cover be vented some how? 


Not needed.

The fresh air source will not affect the internal baffling and ventilation of the crankcase if there is no blow-by..

Would still like to see photo(s) of the install. Most are not done correctly (IMO).

never saw a engine gas or diesel that has no blow by .the cap over the oil fill tub is a breather and should be serviced  at oil changes .the road draft setup worked well, tho original y set up was ok but prone to external leaks as the cover being over tined stretched the poor ly designed.
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never saw a engine gas or diesel that has no blow by .the cap over the oil fill tub is a breather and should be serviced  at oil changes .the road draft setup worked well, tho original y set up was ok but prone to external leaks as the cover being over tined stretched the poor ly designed.                                                                           
            
The OP is describing a CLOSED PCV SYSTEM whereas fresh air for crankcase ventilation is drawn through the carb air cleaner instead of a vented/filtered oil fill cap (OPEN PCV SYSTEM). It first appeared 1963/64. Surely you have seen such a system.

Amount of blow-by vented is as a result of engine condition and/or crankcase ventilation system integrity.



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I will take pictures when I get it back from Intercity Transportation.




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yes I have seen the system you note, but never one a y block. fes where equipped  so. Hear in canada ys wher no longer  in cars. trucks only and had road draft from the rear of the valley, with filler caps as air intake. also the ys in trucks wher notorious for loosing oil pressure on down hill or heavy braking, due to the oilpan.with no bafels
would be interested to see a photo of y with positive  crank ventilation as Oem installation.
 have witnessed a sb ford with valve cover filler taped off and total bottom end failure do to oil not returning to base fast enough due to vacuum build up in valve covers.
ENOUGH  SEAD FROM ME AND WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE
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... hmm ... (must have forgotten the words to the song) ... anyway ...

OP Posted -

So I have a PCV set up on my 292.  The PCV valve is on the rear of the valley pan and feeds back into the intake.  The fresh air goes from the air cleaner base to the oil fill cap but it is the open element type with perforations under it and a hose connector. 

I am getting oil up under my hood near the hinge from it.  Should I have a closed cap with just the hose attachment.  


He doesn't mention year/model. 1961/ came through with PCV SYSTEM.

I was a$$-u-me(ing) that he was referring to a retrofit.

There is no argument, either it is or isn't ... (much akin to my sex life).




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Is the PCV installed correctly, facing the correct way, vacuum input on the correct end of the valve?

Pat in AZ


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