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I think one reason he uses Edelbrock is proximity, to avoid shipping costs.


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I mentioned to John in a phone conversation that I worked for a company (retired in 2007) that had an aluminum foundry in Wabash, IN.  They made production aluminum intake manifolds and aluminum heads including heads for Dart Industries.  I am sure they would insist on making all new tooling and not take somebody else's tooling.  Since they are an OEM manufacturer their prices would probably be a little high.  Probably worth a phone call.
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And outsourcing to those foreign countries usually means that the product you worked so hard to develop will soon be available to anyone who wants to pay.


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John, nor I ever believed the volume of sales for these parts would be anything like it's become. I never thought the market for the "F" code parts would be more than 10 or 12
And I thought it would dry up in a couple years. That was 15 years ago!!
       Edelbrock does not exhibit the same quality for customer work that they do for their own parts. Makes it tough on John. Finding a quality Aluminum Foundry that charges reasonable prices and quality levels in this country is almost impossible today. Thank you China, Taiwan, and previous American Administrations that allowed this to happen.

 


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slumlord444 (6/30/2019)
Glad I bought mine several years back. The wait time was long then but I was in no hurry at the time. Too bad this is a problem. There is definately a market for them. Didn't know he doesn't have intakes. I have allways planed on trying one to replace my factory e manifold to see how it runs.

I have flowed the ECZ-B intake stock, and it averages ~184 cfm, and I have ported a couple to average ~265-266 cfm.  Not easy.  The Mummert intakes that I have flowed stock are in the 270-271 cfm range, with the earliest batch averaging ~275cfm.  Of the BT-1, BT-2, BT-3 intakes that I have flowed, they have been averaging 278-279 cfm stock.  The latest BT-4 intake that I flowed had the #7 port with a lot of slag that needed to be cartridge rolled out, to get the flow back up.  Joe-JDC  


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Glad I bought mine several years back. The wait time was long then but I was in no hurry at the time. Too bad this is a problem. There is definately a market for them. Didn't know he doesn't have intakes. I have allways planed on trying one to replace my factory e manifold to see how it runs.
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I just got off the phone with John.  I finally got him to commit to timing for those heads.  HE SAID 6 - 8 MONTHS.  

I am posting this just so everybody knows what he said.  I will now stop searching ads for cast iron heads.  By the time I found some cast iron heads, had them reconditioned and milled and maybe ported, found springs and valves, it would probably be 6-8 months.

So here I sit, marking days off my calendar.  
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In John’s defense, sales are outstripping the number of castings he receives.  He would love nothing better than have parts on the shelf all the time and simply ship as orders for them comes in.  Unfortunately there’s a waiting list and until the foundry situation changes, John will be behind in fulfilling orders.  The defect rate is high on received castings and that simply compounds the supply problem.


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This is why I chose to use a Blue Thunder intake. When I called to get one from John he was out. I waited a few weeks but it got to the point my project was being held up. I respect John for all he has done for our beloved engine but, would a little bit of inventory really be that bad? How many sales has he lost due to this?

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If you decide to go with iron heads, I have a "G" set for sale.  Looks to be uncut, not posted.


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