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Generator and bracket differences?

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There are several generator bracket assy.(four) on ebay under ford y block engine.  Might be worth a look.
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carl (5/22/2016)
Ron   Have you thought about just bending the bracket you bought to get the proper offset,I will e mail you later   Carl


Carl,

Yes, I thought about bending it, but its pretty thick and would be tough to do.  I also thought about using spacers or something, but at the end of the day, the car is restored to a pretty high level, so Id rather use the "right" parts where possible.  Also, I kind of like knowing its put back together the way Ford intended wherever possible.

Ill look for your email; it would be great if we could connect/figure it out today, as Im hoping to get whatever brackets I need bought today so Ill have them next weekend to get this wrapped up.

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Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL

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Ron   Have you thought about just bending the bracket you bought to get the proper offset,I will e mail you later   Carl
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Carl, thanks for reaching out!  Dont know how I missed your note, but I just replied by PM.  I also included my email address if thats easier.

THANK YOU!!!!

Ron Grove

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rgrove (5/21/2016)
THanks again for everyones input.  Is the lower mounting arm (the one with the adjustment slot) supposed to have a bend in it for an offset?  THe mounting brackets I bought off ebayhas a flat adjusting bracket, and it doesnt line up, so Im guessing that its supposed to have an offset?

Would a set like this fit?  It lists it as fitting 58-64 Ford cars and pickups.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/58-59-60-61-62-63-64-FORD-CAR-PICKUP-TRUCK-Y-BLOCK-272-292-V8-GENERATOR-BRACKETS-/141940056621?hash=item210c49622d:g:utMAAOSwBnVW9X-H&vxp=mtr

Also, it looks like the guy I talked to at Powermaster may have been wrong about which alternator for the application.  He said the passenger car should use the t-bird alternator, but as someone else here mentioned the output stud is clocked differently.  As a result, on the passenger car it ends up at about the 6 oclock position...

This is turning into a much bigger PITA than I thought it would...


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THanks again for everyones input.  Is the lower mounting arm (the one with the adjustment slot) supposed to have a bend in it for an offset?  THe mounting brackets I bought off ebayhas a flat adjusting bracket, and it doesnt line up, so Im guessing that its supposed to have an offset?

Would a set like this fit?  It lists it as fitting 58-64 Ford cars and pickups.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/58-59-60-61-62-63-64-FORD-CAR-PICKUP-TRUCK-Y-BLOCK-272-292-V8-GENERATOR-BRACKETS-/141940056621?hash=item210c49622d:g:utMAAOSwBnVW9X-H&vxp=mtr

Also, it looks like the guy I talked to at Powermaster may have been wrong about which alternator for the application.  He said the passenger car should use the t-bird alternator, but as someone else here mentioned the output stud is clocked differently.  As a result, on the passenger car it ends up at about the 6 oclock position...

This is turning into a much bigger PITA than I thought it would...

Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL

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rgrove (5/16/2016)
....I'm assuming 1/2" wide belts are correct?  The car has always had them, even before we restored it, so Im assuming its correct?

The ’57 and newer models with Y-Blocks used the 3/8” belt.  ’56 and earlier models used the ½” belt.  The belt size at the damper will dictate which belt width should be used as dampers did get changed out with engine swaps without much regard to the year model to which they belonged.



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I believe that the bolt is 3/8 coarse thread, about 1 inch long.


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Thanks everyone.  One last question; what size is the bolt that connects the lower adjustment arm to the timing chain cover?  Any help would be appreciated, as Im making the list to go into town to the hardware store.

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Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL

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The rear end plate on the Bird generator is different. The studs for the wires are in different locations than the passenger car.


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