I have found out that just because the part is NOS its not always any good,years when I had a 53 Olds a guy at the local cruise in said he had NOS headlight bezels so I said bring them the next time you come and they turned out to be junk after he unwrapped them. It seems alot of those old parts did not been stored properly over the years.


Butchering up everything I can get my hands on in Dayton Ohio

A little background:  

Your not having a good run there Rob. Sorry to hear that.

And yet again.. I had some "safety clips" turn up for my drive shaft in the 35 pickup they are the wrong ones, I ordered for the solid shaft I got the bigger ones for the hollow shaft. Im dyin' here...  ; o (



"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"

I think they also try it on because they know your far away and not able to easily turn up and return it to them where the sun doesn't shine.

AMEN TO THAT !



  AussieBill            YYYY    Forever Y Block     YYYY

 Down Under, Australia

New old stock can be anything, as long as it is a new, unused part.  This part could be perfect, shiny, brand new looking, or it can be rusted, pitted trash, depending on how it was stored.  It could be seconds if someone found a stash of them.  Seconds can be excellent, particularly if they are rare parts or in good overall condition.  Most likely, it is simply old inventory from a store or dealer.
Another thing I've noticed is something can be genuine NOS but not "original."  For example, let's say a part number has been unchanged since it was introduced and we're going on 40 years that the part number has been in use.  20 years ago, the manufacturer had to be changed and this stash of NOS parts is from 15 years ago.  The new part is now identical in all critical areas but now the markings on it are different or maybe some non critical area has changed due to a different process of manufacturing.  So it is genuine, it works perfectly for the intended application, but if you are trying to replace something that came out of the factory with an exactly identical component, it is not what is needed.  Some brands with a high attention to detail may change the part number to help distinguish it, but I think it is impossible to keep track of absolutely everything.  And then you have the people at the parts store who throw them into the same bin because they effectively are the same part so when someone buys the NOS inventory, the buyer gets the newer part, even though it is labeled as the older one.  - You simply can't remove the human element.



Lawrenceville, GA

I don't know if this is true but I read somewhere that a lot of NOS parts still hanging around started out as Factory Seconds.  Could be Urban Myth.



Mark

1956 Mercury M100
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan
Delta, British Columbia

Well, it might seem strange for Pacific Northwester, USA, to defend you, but I've had excellent service and response from Romac on timing chains. And just north in NZ, excellent custom parts from Ace.

I'm rebuilding my 292/320 stroker due to a catastrophic lifter failure. Good quality parts, from JM, in the car 11 years and 7000 miles. Took the lobe with it. Shit happens. I ordered a new cam and lifters from John, who ran it thru the cam DR for $20. The cam and lifters weren't cheap, but the oil groove is cut, the lobes deburred, looks great.

The problem with the parts isn't the people that made them, it's the purchasing agent who cut the spec's to get the price point. And the consumer who doesn't know the difference. Good work cost money, and no one wants to pay. Look at what Frank and John went thru to find someone to do a quality casting they would pass on to us. These factories were used to getting away with it.

I certainly share all the frustration above, and after a lifetime in the skilled trades, a real fear of the loss of pride in product. Maybe we need a new country, called Quality, for all of us to relocate to. With no video games for our kids.

miker
55 bird, 32 cabrio F code
Kent, WA
Tucson, AZ

It all started with the pinion support bearing.. Everyone said..ohh your best to find a NOS one as they are the best, they are producing Chinese ones some suppliers are selling and they are junk.. So thinking I'm doing the right thing buy all the rest USA made stuff from this supplier .. But as you say Charlie the stuff has been sitting around so long it's turned to junk. The thing is why don't the people selling this old stuff check it before it goes out.. I've wasted months. The bearings are readily available through c & g , joblot etc.. I again sent an email to this guy ( the in in the USA) and today still no reply. I'm pissed as the last contact I had he wanted me to return the stuff , ok that may seem ok but I'm in Australia and I would be again paying to basically send back junk that can't be used at MY cost!!



"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"