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The gearing could be tested pretty easily.  Have you done a mileage check cruising in 3rd gear?  That would be approximately equivalent to having a 3.70 in the rear.

If mileage increases, then you want to change the gears.  If it stays the same, then you may want to change the gears to make it more enjoyable in the lower gears.  If it drops, then 2.73 may be ok but 3.70 is definitely too short.

After considering what Gary said, I do agree that 2.73 should do alright with that motor on the highway.  My total ratio in overdrive is 2.33 (3.70 x .63).  But it does not hurt to confirm with a simple test.  It could still be too tall for city economy which could be dragging your average down.  My city mileage is 11-12.



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I'm using the common g.m. Throttle bodies from their v 6s and v8s with their smallest injectors f

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My '57 Bird with the factory dual quads, 3 speed, 3.89 rear end, Crane cam, got around 17 on an economy run once. With the stock engine and dual quads it would get around 9 around town with my foot in it.
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An Accel gen 7 is what's in mine. Since I still have the OEM dizzy (Load o matic), I've got a Ford magnetic module in it and the computer runs the ignition curves, one for WOT, one for cruise. My throttle body is the old stand alone Retrotek/proformance/boss EFI , with the sensors in place, but the electronic replace by the Accel. I'd be interested to know what throttle bodies you're running. Figuring out a way to have a fake E code is on my list.

80 on the road sounds plenty sane to me.

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Appreciate all of the responses. You are all somewhat right. If I used my T'bird like most sane people do Iwould dump my 273's in a heartbeat but I use it most frequently for a 70 mile round trip to work mostly done at 80 miles per hour. It just gets comfortable and hums along. A great highway cruiser. I used to have trouble launching with those gears but with the fuel injection it has low end torque like it never had before. May try to lean it up a little and yes it does close loop with an O2 sensor. Using a very tunable Accel gen 7 computer. MIKE

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My F engined  auto trans '57 Bird probably gets about the same mileage as yours around town, I say "probably" because I love the car and don't check the mileage because it doesn't matter.  The difference between 12 and 18 mpg doesn't amount to enough money to concern me.  If your Isky cam has a lot of overlap, you are diluting the intake charge with exhaust gases at low rpm and need a little extra fuel at that point.

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I just made a 2200 mile trip with my 56 Bird (312, C4, stock rear, 3.40??) Overall average was 17.  Lots of highway travel, 65 MPH, r7uns about 2800 rpm.  I got a 57 dizzy with a pertronix, stock carb modified for the 57 dizzy.


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A 3.90 gear with a 70% overdrive will give you a 273 final gear on the highway for good gas mileage. So with your  2.73 you should be OK. Your first gear in the trans 2.64 is underwhelming for take off thou. The yblocks seem to like 36 degrees all in and usually idles around 12 degrees average, checked with the vacuum plugged. If you can smell gas then you're too rich and make sure they're no vacuum leaks. My 56 crown Victoria has a 3.90 gear with a T85 overdrive poked and stroked 312 and pulls great in overdrive when cruising and my final gear is 2.73.

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My truck averages over 16 hwy with overdrive and 13 without overdrive, at about 70mph with an engine which is not terribly different from yours.

I think your rear gear is waaaaaaay to tall.  People seem to thing that tall gears guarantee good mileage but you can go too tall which makes the vehicle very lazy and brings the mileage down.  I'm going to be trying a 4.11, from a  3.70 in part because I think my mileage will increase with the shorter gears because of the power band of my engine - the other part is I think it will be faster.

There are two isky 300 cams in their catalog, the RPM300 and the F300.  Looking at the specs for both of those, I would not expect either to have a smooth idle though the RPM should be the milder of the two.  You didn't say where it needs to be rich to run smooth but if you mean idle, I just don't think it's going to happen when it is tuned correctly.  They are more performance oriented than stock and will have at least a slightly lopey, performance sound.  Further, if it is either of these cams, I am sure that your rear gear is too tall.  3.55-3.90 is recommended for the RPM and 3.70-4.11 for the F.

So my thoughts are that it is geared wrong and tuned incorrectly.



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