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Horsepower surprise when using the ECZ-A Teapot Intake.

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I had a stock 1956 4V intake on the +060 over 312 dyno mule so I could sort out some Holley Teapot, Carter WCFB, and Rochester 4V carbs in preparation for the upcoming dual quad intake test.  The peak power numbers were so dismal I had to take a second look at the carbs to insure that the secondaries were opening up; the carbs were working just fine.  Final conclusion: the 1956 ECZ-A intake is obviously very restricted compared to the stock 1957 ECZ-B intake.  It’s no wonder that so many of those ’55 and ’56 Fords that had dual quads installed back in their day had a significant increase in performance.

 

Here are the peak HP numbers for three different intakes used on the dyno mule with a set of mildly ported 113 heads.  All these values are with the same carb just to keep all the intake comparisons on a level playing field.

 

– 240HP at 5100 rpm - ECZ-A Teapot, stock unported

– 276HP at 5200 rpm - ECZ-B Large flange, stock unported

– 311HP at 6000 rpm - Out of the box Mummert aluminum, stock unported

 

While the Teapot intakes are obviously good daily driver manfolds, the step up in performance in just changing to the ECZ-B intake is more than impressive.  Ford engineers were on top of their game in ’57.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


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charliemccraney (12/18/2012)
....... Ted, how does the low end compare with the different carbs?

Hollow Head (12/18/2012)
Ted, please, give us fair hp numbers with all tested at 5000 rpm. We all know 5100 rpm  and 6000 rpm are not the same. As at our dyno sessio we got about 10 to 13 hp more with every 100 rpm increaseBigGrin it sure makes difference.

What was stated above were the peak HP numbers and the different manifolds do peak at different rpm values.  But I see what’s being asked so here’s a chart with the HP values in 500 rpm increments that should make everything clearer.  All this is still with the 750 carb as that's the only data sitting in front of me right now.  I'll have to dig deeper for the other carb data.

rpm

ECZ-A Intake - 1956

ECZ-B Intake - 1957

Mummert intake - 2012

2500

147

143

139

3000

185

185

186

3500

211

213

225

4000

228

240

261

4500

238

260

293

5000

240

271

302

5500

230

273

308

6000

 

 

311

 

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)



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Forum Post Horsepower surprise when using the ECZ-A Teapot Intake. By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post This is what I call an excellent learning tool. Thanks Ted By speedpro56 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Looks like John beat the "B" pretty handily, 50 years later! Notice... By pegleg ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Did you use the same teapot carb on the ECZ-B manifold for this test?... By Lord Gaga ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Lord Gaga (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]Did you use the same teapot... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ted class=MsoNormal> But as part of this particular dyno... By marvh ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post So, make it simple for a country boy with an "A" manifold... Holley... By texasmark1 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]texasmark1 (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]So, make it simple for a... By charliemccraney ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]texasmark1 (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]So, make it simple for a... By joey ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post For those of us stuck with an "A" manifold, for the time being,does... By lyonroad ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]lyonroad (12/19/2012)[/b][hr]For those of us stuck with an... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, Any chance that test could be duplicated on the B intake? By pegleg ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]pegleg (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]Ted, Any chance that test could... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, that'd work. I may send you a Lincoln teapot to try. Part of the... By pegleg ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, please, give us fair hp numbers with all tested at 5000 rpm. We... By Hollow Head ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]charliemccraney (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]....... Ted, how does... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Texmark: Re your 600 cfm carb question.. Ted's test mule engine is 50... By PF Arcand ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Are you going to run a test with a Lincoln or Merc WCFB on the "A"... By DryLakesRacer ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]DryLakesRacer (12/19/2012)[/b][hr]Are you going to run a... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post By the time you put into reworking the A manifold I would think it... By speedpro56 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Well I've never seen a "B" manifold for sale where I live (Delta B.C.)... By lyonroad ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Mark good question about slotting out the ' A ' . Maybe at some point... By Talkwrench ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted there is a Edelbrock F548 aluminum intake for a teapot carb on... By junkyardjeff ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]junkyardjeff (12/19/2012)[/b][hr]Ted there is a Edelbrock... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I think modifying an A iron manifold would be a good thing to try.... By Doug T ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Great info Ted. It will be interesting to see the the smaller carb HP... By DryLakesRacer ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted and DougT thanks for the vote of confidence. I'll go for it. I... By lyonroad ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]charliemccraney (12/18/2012)[/b][hr]... Ted, how does the... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Ted. That clearly shows that in normal street use it is just... By Hollow Head ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I agree, for what Mark wants the A should work fine and sloting the... By speedpro56 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks again for all the great work Ted, I read your dyno results and... By mctim64 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'm in the process of putting together a 312 with an Isky E4 cam that... By Dave V ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post The overall torque will be improved by slotting the manifold but... By Ted ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for the info Ted. Dave By Dave V ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, this info is great. Thanks for sharing it with everyone. By 56_Fairlane ( 12 Years Ago )


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