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Ignition problem? well maybe a carb problem? or is it something else? How to tell?

Posted By Pete 55Tbird 12 Years Ago
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Ignition problem? well maybe a carb problem? or is it something else?...

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aussiebill
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peeeot (9/29/2013)
I got the car back on Friday. It was missing so badly on the way home I had to pull over. I bypassed the resistor and it was smooth sailing the rest of the way, though I was expecting trouble at any moment.


Of course, that was written about GM parts, but the E was there on the Ford rotor, so I thought, could be the same. Well, the non-E Autozone rotor was about 1/8" longer in reach than the others I had tried, so I thought for sure I had found the heart of all of this. Ultimately, even that has not resolved the trouble. I believe that most if not all of the intermittent missing has gone away with the new rotor. Also new is spitback through the carburetor, particularly if I snap the throttle open; I have never ever had that happen before. But, regardless, I can't idle the car in gear when hot, and I even had it shut off once or twice in today's tinkering.

Next, I will replace the primary wiring, one piece at a time, starting with the little ground wire inside the distributor.


Good to continue on this journey with you. I wondered about the spitting back on snapping the throttle, with all the new fiddling by the shop, and change of rotor, how about resetting the timeing and check if spitting stops, that sounds like retarded timing to me? regards bill.

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You stated it ran good after bypassing the resister. I would start by replacing the resister, check the points and reset the timing and see how it does. You may have the answer already.

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Folks, AT LAST, I can report that this issue is fully and completely RESOLVED!

And, in total humility, the answer has been suggested repeatedly, and could have been addressed a long time ago.

As I said in my last post, I found a new rotor that decreased the rotor-to-cap gap, and while the intermittent missing seemed to have disappeared as a result, the car would still shut off suddenly and fail to run in gear when thoroughly hot.

So, I removed the distributor and thoroughly cleaned the base and clamp to make the best ground to the block possible. I also disassembled all of the wires internal to the distributor (breaker plate to ground, points to distributor terminal) and reattached the metal ends to new wire with solder. I did the same with the wire from the resistor to the coil. I replaced the wire from the distributor terminal to the coil with a new wire as well.

When I put it all back together, I ran through the usual battery of ignition system tests. As before, the voltage drop to the resistor was about .29V, and the voltage drop from the coil negative to ground was about .18V. Spec is 0.2 and 0.1, respectively. Not seeing any change, I drove to the gas station to fill up as I was nearly empty, but I did not expect any improvement. I decided to run the full test loop I have been using just for grins and when I got to the critical point, everything seemed OK. I got back to the driveway and the car was still idling in gear! I turned the idle in gear down to about 480 RPM and the car idled without a hiccup for ten minutes. Sweet, sweet victory!

So, today I drove it to work and covered about 75 trouble-free miles. Now, finally, I can think about other aspects of this project... but first, I'm just going to enjoy driving it Smile

Thanks for all of your patience, suggestions, wisdom, and encouragement. And, for all of you who suggested it (some of you multiple times)--you're entitled to a hearty "I told you so!" Wink

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Sounds like a combination of things from poor grounds to bad solder connections. Glad you've got it fixed. Now enjoy the drive! Chuck

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peeeot (10/1/2013)
Folks, AT LAST, I can report that this issue is fully and completely RESOLVED!

And, in total humility, the answer has been suggested repeatedly, and could have been addressed a long time ago.

As I said in my last post, I found a new rotor that decreased the rotor-to-cap gap, and while the intermittent missing seemed to have disappeared as a result, the car would still shut off suddenly and fail to run in gear when thoroughly hot.

So, I removed the distributor and thoroughly cleaned the base and clamp to make the best ground to the block possible. I also disassembled all of the wires internal to the distributor (breaker plate to ground, points to distributor terminal) and reattached the metal ends to new wire with solder. I did the same with the wire from the resistor to the coil. I replaced the wire from the distributor terminal to the coil with a new wire as well.

When I put it all back together, I ran through the usual battery of ignition system tests. As before, the voltage drop to the resistor was about .29V, and the voltage drop from the coil negative to ground was about .18V. Spec is 0.2 and 0.1, respectively. Not seeing any change, I drove to the gas station to fill up as I was nearly empty, but I did not expect any improvement. I decided to run the full test loop I have been using just for grins and when I got to the critical point, everything seemed OK. I got back to the driveway and the car was still idling in gear! I turned the idle in gear down to about 480 RPM and the car idled without a hiccup for ten minutes. Sweet, sweet victory!

So, today I drove it to work and covered about 75 trouble-free miles. Now, finally, I can think about other aspects of this project... but first, I'm just going to enjoy driving it Smile

Thanks for all of your patience, suggestions, wisdom, and encouragement. And, for all of you who suggested it (some of you multiple times)--you're entitled to a hearty "I told you so!" Wink


Yea! So glad this long ordeal is over. I can only imagine how freaking FRUSTRATING it had to have been. I'm sure you're extremely relieved.


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