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Dennis K. (3/3/2012)
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The 1960-64 Ford Parts Book lists C0AF-12127-A for a 60-62 292 engine. Somewhere it must of been converted to dual points. On the body near the part number there should be an alphanumeric manufacturing date code. "C0" indicates the decade (C=196X) and model year (0) of the component. A= Full size Ford, and F = Hardware and Accessories Division Product Engineering Office.



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Thanks Dennisfor the explanation and identifying my distributor. Just below the COAF 12127 A is another number Y9KC or O and there was a paper stickershowing it asFoMoCo remanufactured




I dugout my distributors. My passenger car supercharger dist isFEH-12127-E,date code is 743. It has straight and curved points and a vacuum advance diaphragm assy, but the port is plugged.
I have another dual point dist, FEK-12127-C2, date code 6A2, it is a tach drive with straight and curved points. However, I don't think it is a T-Bird based on the drive cable length, a bit over 47".Someone thought Turnpike Cruiser, but from the date code wouldn't that be a bit early? Possibly some race application 312 260 hp LOL or maybe a truck? Anyone know the original application?
I also have one otherdual point, C0AF-12127-A, date code OMB, two straight points. Sounds similar to the one that Buddy was asking about. Coincidence they have the same housing part number or was there an application somewhere?
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Dennis




Dennis:



In my Master Parts Catalog it shows FEK-12127-C as fitting 57 Turnpike Cruiser 368 engine w/o tachometer not serviced in assembly use FEK-12127-E Confusing as you say that it is a tach drive distributor you have unless the C2 was an update from the original 12127-C model.



FEK-12127-E is for the same engine with tachometer
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I have heard the condenser has a different capacity rating.  I believe the S/C condenser has a capacity rating of .21 - .25 mfd (micro farad).  Does anyone know the capacity rating of the conventional V8 condenser?  I have an original Ford condenser on my S/C distributor, maybe I can figure out if something is different.  Physical size, they appear to be the same, but electronically they may be different.

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The condenser B7A-12300-B  mounts on the outside underneath opposite the vacuum advance unit.  From what I have been able to figure out it is the same design as the standard V8 condensor B7A-12300-A or -C.  I don't know why it was a different part number.  For the points B7A-12171-B is refered to as closed bracket and the other B7A-12171-C is refered to as open bracket.  Randy

I have heard the condenser has a different capacity rating.  I believe the S/C condenser has a capacity rating of .21 - .25 mfd (micro farad).  Does anyone know the capacity rating of the conventional V8 condenser?  I have an original Ford condenser on my S/C distributor, maybe I can figure out if something is different.  Physical size, they appear to be the same, but electronically they may be different.

Regards,

Dennis

       

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buddy (2/29/2012)
The 1960-64 Ford Parts Book lists C0AF-12127-A for a 60-62 292 engine. Somewhere it must of been converted to dual points. On the body near the part number there should be an alphanumeric manufacturing date code. "C0" indicates the decade (C=196X) and model year (0) of the component. A= Full size Ford, and F = Hardware and Accessories Division Product Engineering Office.

Regards,

Dennis

Thanks Dennis for the explanation and identifying my distributor.  Just below the COAF 12127 A is another number Y 9KC or O and there was a paper sticker showing it as FoMoCo remanufactured  

 

I dug out my distributors.  My passenger car supercharger dist is FEH-12127-E, date code is 743.  It has straight and curved points and a vacuum advance diaphragm assy, but the port is plugged. 
 
I have another dual point dist, FEK-12127-C2, date code 6A2, it is a tach drive with straight and curved points.  However, I don't think it is a T-Bird based on the drive cable length, a bit over 47".  Someone thought Turnpike Cruiser, but from the date code wouldn't that be a bit early?  Possibly some race application 312 260 hp LOL or maybe a truck?  Anyone know the original application?   
 
I also have one other dual point, C0AF-12127-A, date code OMB, two straight points.  Sounds similar to the one that Buddy was asking about.  Coincidence they have the same housing part number or was there an application somewhere?
 
Regards,
Dennis
    
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The condenser B7A-12300-B  mounts on the outside underneath opposite the vacuum advance unit.  From what I have been able to figure out it is the same design as the standard V8 condensor B7A-12300-A or -C.  I don't know why it was a different part number.  For the points B7A-12171-B is refered to as closed bracket and the other B7A-12171-C is refered to as open bracket.  Randy
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This subject is confusing! I have a box of what were supposed to be 57 (& up) point sets. However, only one was and there were other points, both left & right facing that were straight based. I've assumed that some were regular 1955-56 Loadomatic points & or 6 cylinder ones. But one thing that further confuses the issue is that I've seen references to Loadomatic distributors, even in an article, which weren't, they were 57 & up distributors. Anyway, I don't know if any of this is helpful or not?..

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How does the condenser mount on the Ford version of the dual points? Is the external condenser still available? The fat one shown in my earlier photo is no longer available from Mallory - and the fellow who owned the outfit was also struggling through finding the necessary repair parts.

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My father doesn't remember replacing the plate.  If someone did they did a nice job of putting the adjustment hole with slot in it at the contact end of points.  I may have to enlarge the slot in the end if i don't find the correct ones. Randy
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Randy:

I have a hunch that someone along the line replaced the point plate, and used the single point plate instead of the correct one, then hand drilled the mounting holes for the points.  Got the pivot hole off a little.  Probably slotted the hole in the points base so the screw would go in.  Looks like you could do the same, even if the mounting hole became a slot instead of a hole.

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Try to put the NAPA points in, the straight set, NAPA CS754, doesn't fit correctly.  Although screw holes line up, the hole furthest from the contacts runs out of room before the rubbing block hits as you can see in picture

 I need set that has a little curve to it,  Anyone have any ideas?  Randy

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Randy,

Yes, it's obvious we have different distributors since one of your points are curved and both of mine are straight.  I had been unsuccessful in identifying the distributor in my 57 312 but thanks to Dennis it was built for a 1960 to 62 292 and at some point it was apparently converted to dual points. 

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