Hi guys,
actually I plan to rebuild my 239 Y engine of a F100 1955. Unfortunately the block have a ecg (272) casting number all other parts, heads, intake, headers the correct EBV (239).

At bying the F100 the engine not runs since 20 years. I belive this mix would work, but not very well. The intake will not get enought air in the cylinders???!!!

The best way would be, to find the correct EBV engine block. Any folks out there who have a rebuildable ebv block in the garage???

Greetings from Europe

MIT3.  I realize that you're writing from Europe and that shipping cost is a factor.  Too, I realize that you think you want a '55 EBV 239 block, but who will ever know if you put a different engine in?  Also, parts are more available for a 292 than for a 272 let alone a 239 y-block.

IF you're working on something this old, you must have heard years ago that there's no substitute for cubic inches!  

IF you need an engine, consider getting a complete used one from a source that knows what they have and who won't take advantage of you.

Royce has a '55 ECK 292 block and after reading the thread where he listed it, perhaps you'll see where I'm coming from.  Click the link below.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost135490.aspx

Hope this helps! 


NoShortcuts
a.k.a. Charlie Brown
near Syracuse, New York

yes, my first option is to rebuild a 239, because in europe the law is very diffrent to them wath you can do in the USA with an historical vehicle.

It is allowed to install a minimum 30 years engine from the same manufacture, but for example it is not allowed to drop the car, put on wheels which was not avaible in 1955,...

So the only meaningful way to go is, to restore tha pickup as it was 1955. That means no transfer from 6V to 12V, no power steering and brake, no chrome on the bumpers,..

It would a shame to look at every detail to be original, but the heart of the car isnt the right one!

So, I found a complete 239 engine about 500 miles near to me, but this is a EBU. What I found the diffrent to the EBV is the cam bearing.

MIT3.  Yes!  The EBU block was used only in 1954 vehicle production and had largerer diameter camshaft bearings.  The EBU block was first year production of Ford's y-block engine.

I'm not as knowledgeable about this particular engine as many other Forum members on this site are.  My recollection is that in addition to the camshaft being different, the oil pump drive does not use a hex drive shaft and the water pump is different in physical size which relates to the timing chain cover being different that what your '55 used.

Others will chime in on this, I'm sure.

Again, I'm fuzzy on this production year's engine.  I vaguely recall that Ted Eaton mentioned an insert for the '54 engine block to permit use of the more available later y-block camshafts.  Ted would be a good person to contact for more information on the engine you've obtained.

Click the link below for John Mummert's reference chart on Ford y-block engine block applications . . .
http://www.ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htm

Click the link below for contact information to directly contact Ted Eaton . . .
http://www.eatonbalancing.com/2001/03/20/contact-us/

Hope this helps!  


NoShortcuts
a.k.a. Charlie Brown
near Syracuse, New York

Do we understand that the current engine in the truck is a 272"?  If so was it licensed in Europe that way?  Because it's likely even more difficult to get parts & so on for a 239", especially the blocks with the larger cam bearings. Even parts like head or manifold gaskets may not match up with the later engines You say that a 30 + year old engine from the same family is o.k. with the authorities? If so, stick with the 272", parts are more available & 99 %+ of the public will never know the difference..   


Paul

I agree.  30 years is 1988.  That makes fuel injected, roller cammed 302s legal in your area.  Any Y-Block will be legal.  Keep it simple for yourself, and work with what is already there, which will be better than going back to a 239.


Lawrenceville, GA

Yes actually was a 272 block with 239 Heads Mounted.

Does anybody knows the company remanufactured.com, the Name in Background is engine LLC.

The Made me an offer to find an engine from the junkyard and rebuild them to a longblock engine with the correct casting Number.

well, this is my calculation:

Option 1:
by bying a rebuild 239:
$4800 = €3870 for core, rebuild, shipping to Harbor Germany and take off parts like valve cover, fan blade which I also need
+ €970 tax
+ €250 shipping Harbor to me
total €5090
by selling my ECG block and EBV heads I calculate €800
so my round about total would be €4800

Option 2:
by rebuild my ECG block with EBV heads:
$1900 = €1530 for Overhaulkit (Piston, bearings, camshaft,...)
+€250 shipping
+€445 tax
+€500 used parts fan blade,timing cover and valve cover including shipping
total €2725

So the more cost are about € 2000. By selling the car I will get this more investment partly back.
It is also hard to find out how the ECG block with the EBV heads match.

I think option 1 are the better one. Please note, the car market in Europe is different to them in the USA.

If going back to the correct engine will increase the value of the truck by a similar amount or more, then that is a good way to go.

Otherwise, save yourself € 2000 and work with what you have.  The heads are '55 heads and from my understanding, all '55 and '56 heads have the medium sized ports.  Someone will correct me if the 239 still got the small ports in '55.  If that is correct, then the ports should not be much different from any other '55 or '56 head that did come on a 272, so performance should be adequate.  It could be better in some respects because they probably provide higher compression on a 272.





Lawrenceville, GA