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hello all,

Boy this place has changed. I was a member here up until a few years ago. I lost the engine in my 56 F-100. I had to deal with a lot of health issues and it just sat in the back yard. 

I ended up buying another Y-block last week finally. I come over here to start reading again..and my whole account was gone. My posts in some of the thread are gone. Looks weird where people were talking to me in them. Hahahaha

Anyway, I created a new account (hope that is ok). 

I have the typical rebuild books ordered (one is not even printed). I am having a horrible horrible time with the new format trying to find anything with the search. 

can anyone link me to any engine rebuild threads? I know there were a few around here. I just cannot find them now. 

Thanks, 
Brian




'56 F-100 272 Y-block, 3 speed. 
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We just got new software for the site in the last few weeks. Its seems much better. Welcome back. Chuck


Y's guys rule!
Looking for McCullouch VS57 brackets and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts. And early Hemi parts.

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Welcome back, Brian.
As Chuck said, we've just recently moved to a different software 'package'.  This is just the most recent change.  By my count we're now on our third within the last (?) couple of years.  The changes have been driven by necessity due to technical problems, not some effort to be trendy.

After one software change, I recall an effort to remove dormant Forum member accounts.  In doing that, I'm not sure that anyone realized that the thread inputs from those accounts would be purged as well.  From what you've reported, taking the member name out of our roster ALSO deleted what they had written!  OUCH! 
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As you mentioned, the book Ford Y-Block Engines: How to Rebuild & Modify by Charles Morris is JUST being released.  Many on this site ordered copies over a year ago.  Production was apparently delayed by Hurricane Sandy in October of 2012.  Several of us have received shipping notices in the last couple of days.  Mine is coming from Amazon.
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James Eickman's book Ford Y-Block - How to Repair and Rebuild the 1954-1962 Ford OHV V-8 is still available.  Although my understanding is that there are a couple of errors in it (like the length of production in the U.S.).  I'd look for one on the Internet.  NOTE: Originally published in 1984, sometime later, it was reprinted.  The more recent printing has a large number of pictures throughout the book that are NOT readable because they are so dark that there is no contrast.

I went back-and-forth with someone on eBay to locate an early printing of the book.  With both copies in front of me now, the spine of the original printing is 3/8 inch in thickness and the newer one 5/16 inch.  Also, on the spine, the name 'Ford Y-Block' is 2 1/4 inches in length on the original and 1 1/16 inches on the reprint.  James Eickman's name on the book spine is 1 1/2 inches in length on the original and 1 1/16 inches on the reprint.
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An 'old reliable' for me is a 1957 Ford Car and Thunderbird Shop Manual.  This manual and many other FoMoCo manuals are being reprinted and are available on eBay for one.  That said, used original FoMoCo manuals are plentiful on eBay, too.  IF you go the reprint route, I've been pleased with the quality of the materials from Faxon Auto Literature.  There are others, BUT...
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Hope some of this helps.  Glad that you're back with us and able to work on your truck again.  Smile

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Thank you,

That explain the account being removed. Fortunately nothing I had posted was important, but I would imagine there were some major losses of information in some cases. Sad 

I have the two books ordered. The reprint should be here Friday. I just received this notice from Amazon about the other one. 

"Charles Morris "Ford Y-Block Engines: How to Rebuild & Modify (Workbench How-to)"
    Estimated arrival date: April 09, 2014 - April 12, 2014"

I had spoken to Charles Morris online a few days ago and he was not sure when they would begin shipping. This is good news. 


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Brian: If you ordered a reprint of the 1984 book, I hope you are happy with it, as previously noted, the quality of print isn't good..In any case, note that the photo of installing the timing chain is incorrect, don't follow it!.  And the material on drilling the valley of the block is very controversial, I'd suggest you ignore it. Good luck with your rebuild.. 


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Brian, some information has been added to some resources since you were last with us.  You may want to re-visit the following...

Ted Eaton's web site @ www.eatonbalancing.com
- web directory page listing that opens, under Eaton Balancing | www.eatonbalancing.com
- toggle the sub-heading, 'Y-Block'
- on the page that opens, in the left hand column under, 'Recent Posts'
- toggle the heading 'Quick Index for Eaton Balancing Articles'
- the page that opens is a listing of NUMEROUS articles Ted has written that you may find informative to read
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Tim McMaster's web site @ yblockguy.com
- web directory page listing that opens, toggle the heading  Y-Block Guy
- on the page that opens, note the sub-heading listing under the heading, 'Tim McMaster Engine Builder'
- toggle the 7th heading from the top, 'Tech Tips' for some info that may be of interest...
- also, toggle the 8th heading from the top, 'You Tube Videos' and scroll down the page that opens for a listing of numerous live demos that Tim has generated...
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John Mummert's web site @ www.ford-y-block.com
- web directory page listing that opens, toggle the heading  Ford-y-block.com
- on the Home page that opens, scroll down past the parts listing headings to a grid marked, 'Information Center'
- within the grid, toggle the heading, 'Technical Center'
- the web page that opens is titled, 'Y-Block Technical Information'
- the first and last topics in John's listing may be of particular interest during your dis-assembly and rebuild... 'Assembly Errors' and 'Trouble Areas'
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I got Charlie Morris' book today.  (Saturday, 4-5-2014).  It has a lot of good information and goes at the whole thing in a different way from the other references that I suggested.

Best Wishes!  Smile


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Thank you again.

I had a lot of those sites bookmarked on my dads computer. He decided to reformat it without asking me. I am the one with the I.T. experience. Hahahaha I lost it all. Sad  

I speak to Tim McMaster on facebook so I have his and the Mummert site bookmarked. I had forgotten about the eaton one. I spoke to Charles Morris on facebook last week as well. My book is not due in yet. 

We cannot take the engine apart yet (even though I am dying to). Life gets in the way and when I take it apart..i want to be able to work on it. Smile We had the pan and valve covers off. Everything from the bottom side looked brand new. The heads, intake, water pump, and exhaust is just sort of stuck on there. They have a bolt or nut here and there. 

It was a very very old reman short block. The gentleman I got it from said it was part of a deal when he bought a 56 crown vic (spare engine). He just packed it up and put it on a shelf for the last 20 or so years. He would go out and turn it every so often. I do not think the short block (again only looking from the bottom) has ever been ran. I am hoping we wont have to do anything to the block itself. Just the heads and valve train. We will see. 




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I wanted to post a thank you to Charlie McCraney and Ted Eaton. I had login issues (still not sure what I did) and could not get back into the forum. They both worked on this and made it so I could get back in.


anyway, its been a while since I was on here. With my brothers help we pulled the old Y-block and transmission out of my 56. I have a "new to me" Y-block to rebuild now.

It will be a very slow process. Money is tight. Isn't it always? Oddly enough, the block has the same number as my old one. It apparently came out of a 56 (something??). I have the intake, valley pan, heads, and exhaust off it. I had it hooked to the engine hoist to stick on the stand last weekend..only to find out someone (not me) broke 3 of the bell housing bolts off in the block. Now I have to deal with that issue first.

I have confirmed the block is a very old ford authorized reman. It is bored to the 292 piston size. It has been run since it was re-manufactured though. The bores look good, but we (my brother and I) will take a lot more apart and inspect everything.




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Glad to hear that Charlie and Ted were able to get you re-connected, Brian.

I'm surprised to hear that you've got sheared off bellhousing bolts.  I wouldn't expect them to be too difficult to remove, BUT... I wouldn't expect them to be sheared off either.

After removing the bolts, look closely at the casting area around the threaded holes for cracks.  Shearing those bolts off took some serious force...
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After sitting, I think that you're wise to disassemble the entire Ford re-manufactured engine, clean everything up, re-assemble checking clearances as you put everything together.

While done by Ford or an authorized Ford rebuilder, check the rockerarms to be sure that they are not mixed ratio and check the pushrod lengths to make sure they are all the same.  I like to use the large heavy black plastic contractor trash bags (available at Lowe's or Home Depot) to keep the engine block assembly free of airborne dust between work sessions.

Keep us posted on your progress.  Smile   


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