T Bird filter size


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By ian57tbird - 11 Years Ago
Just wondering what the original filter element size is for 57 TBird?

The one I have on my car is 2 1/4 x 13 1/4 OD x 11 1/4 ID approximately. That size is available here and I checked with my TBird parts supplier that I use and they supply about the same size.

It appears like it should take larger element at about 13 7/8 OD and maybe as small as 10 7/8 ID. I have done a bit of looking on the net at old photos and it looks like the element extends to the outside of the filter.

What is the thought out there, and does anyone sell the correct size?
By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
This is the one I was told fits correctly...... and looks original.
By Teros292 - 11 Years Ago
My parts book gives following info on filter sizes:

55-57 t-bird and 57-59 car (probably with single 4 barrel)
10.81" ID - 13.69" OD - 2.12 high B7S 9601-A

57 t-bird and car with dual 4 barrel carbs
14.79" ID - 17.34" OD - 2.12 high B7S 9601-B or 2 pieces of 5 9/16" ID - 7 1/16" OD - 2 1/8 high B7A 9601-F

57 t-bird and car with supercharger
6 5/8" dia - 7 7/8" high B7A 9601-E

There is also other sizes for other car models.
By 312T85Bird - 11 Years Ago
The '57 Bird would use an # B7SZ-9601-B Available from Hill's Thunderbird Center at 1-800-562-1955 or if you are not concerned about Prissy points at a Show you can buy a WIX # 42063 at most Quality Automotive Parts Store. These would be with the single four barrell carb.

312T85Bird
By ian57tbird - 11 Years Ago
http://automotivemileposts.com/tbird/images/tbird1957engine.jpg

Sorry I should have specified 1x4v.

This is the best image I found of an original style filter with the old mesh reinforcing. As you can see the element fills the lower part of the filter completely.

The 13.3 x 2.25 is what I have but it looks too small for the base. Teros292 the dimensions you listed sound like what I suspected would be more like the correct size.

I was also thinking the larger OD and smaller ID would give better air flow with the greater paper surface area, which might hopefully equate to some improved performance.

I did do some measuring and thought it could be as high as 2.5 inches and still give enough hood clearance.

312T85Bird I'll check out your recommendations and see what they have, thanks.

I wasn't worried about the old style reinforcing but more something that looks like it fits properly and maybe flows better. I should be over in the USA next year for a vacation/shopping trip so if there are any more suggestions that would be great.

Thanks everyone for your imput.
By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
I have a '57 housing I put on my outfit when the other, more factory dress is on the engine. Using an oversize diameter - when using the 2.25 height - resulted in more shrouding of the filter than I thought it needed (fit tight to the front).

The Wix number 42063 works well.

The #B7SX-9601-B is more available than the "A" version but doesn't have the round holes in the screen.
By ian57tbird - 11 Years Ago
I think I get what you mean. I do have an old 14 x 3 element (actually measured about 13 7/8 which I'm guessing they call a 14 inch) that I sat on the base to see what it looks like and it did not appear to too close at the front as the base steps away quickly from the element on mine.

The reason I started the topic was there is no 14 x 2.25 available here that I know of, and my normal TBird supplier only had the 13.30 size, so I wasn't even sure if a 14 x 2.25 even existed until you guys gave me some part numbers.

Thanks again, I will add one of those to the shopping list.
By slick56 - 11 Years Ago
Here is the Ryco (Aussie) Air filter listing.You will have to convert to metric.

Ryco partInside diameter TopOutside diameter TopInside diameter BottomOutside diameter BottomHeight Overall
A300.00mm0.00mm0.00mm0.00mm0.00mm
HDA5885112.00mm131.00mm0.00mm125.00mm0.00mm
A4790.00mm344.00mm0.00mm170.00mm26.00mm
A3450.00mm275.00mm0.00mm161.00mm34.00mm
A4580.00mm229.00mm0.00mm142.00mm37.00mm
A4810.00mm334.00mm0.00mm165.00mm37.00mm
A13660.00mm264.00mm0.00mm181.00mm37.00mm
A15170.00mm308.00mm0.00mm224.00mm37.00mm
A4770.00mm321.00mm0.00mm183.00mm38.00mm
A12490.00mm208.00mm0.00mm182.00mm39.00mm
A3650.00mm250.00mm0.00mm170.00mm40.00mm
A13520.00mm261.00mm0.00mm180.00mm40.00mm
A4880.00mm233.00mm0.00mm202.00mm40.00mm
A13320.00mm290.00mm0.00mm246.00mm40.00mm
A338223.00mm295.00mm223.00mm295.00mm40.00mm
A44821.00mm256.00mm0.00mm0.00mm41.00mm
A3470.00mm334.00mm0.00mm152.00mm41.00mm
A4630.00mm256.00mm0.00mm177.00mm41.00mm
A13000.00mm246.00mm0.00mm213.00mm41.00mm
A45721.00mm238.00mm0.00mm238.00mm41.00mm
A291201.00mm259.00mm201.00mm259.00mm41.00mm
A2820.00mm334.00mm0.00mm134.00mm42.00mm
A4540.00mm249.00mm0.00mm154.00mm42.00mm
A3530.00mm251.00mm0.00mm156.00mm42.00mm
A3440.00mm310.00mm0.00mm166.00mm42.00mm
A15130.00mm293.00mm0.00mm206.00mm42.00mm
A15070.00mm327.00mm0.00mm147.00mm43.00mm
A4870.00mm250.00mm0.00mm150.00mm43.00mm
A4590.00mm308.00mm0.00mm154.00mm43.00mm
A343272.00mm328.00mm129.00mm185.00mm43.00mm
A14830.00mm246.00mm0.00mm211.00mm43.00mm
A14230.00mm273.00mm0.00mm168.00mm44.00mm
A121894.00mm226.00mm94.00mm226.00mm44.00mm
A351198.00mm265.00mm198.00mm265.00mm44.00mm
A313230.00mm288.00mm172.00mm230.00mm45.00mm
A314237.00mm283.00mm187.00mm233.00mm45.00mm
A25654.00mm142.00mm54.00mm142.00mm46.00mm
A3640.00mm231.00mm0.00mm195.00mm46.00mm
A327160.00mm216.00mm160.00mm216.00mm46.00mm
A1248232.00mm283.00mm170.00mm221.00mm46.00mm
A14290.00mm319.00mm0.00mm175.00mm49.00mm
A319195.00mm261.00mm195.00mm261.00mm49.00mm
A24534.00mm73.00mm34.00mm73.00mm50.00mm
A13570.00mm293.00mm0.00mm138.00mm50.00mm
A292244.00mm304.00mm121.00mm181.00mm50.00mm
A357155.00mm216.00mm155.00mm216.00mm50.00mm
A105174.00mm229.00mm174.00mm229.00mm50.00mm
A240X239.00mm302.00mm239.00mm302.00mm50.00mm
A14540.00mm259.00mm0.00mm178.00mm51.00mm
A443280.00mm344.00mm150.00mm214.00mm51.00mm
A12470.00mm267.00mm0.00mm224.00mm51.00mm
A302180.00mm237.00mm180.00mm237.00mm51.00mm
A120183.00mm251.00mm183.00mm251.00mm51.00mm
A326A248.00mm308.00mm248.00mm308.00mm51.00mm
A4650.00mm260.00mm0.00mm167.00mm52.00mm
A13180.00mm230.00mm0.00mm185.00mm52.00mm
A232145.00mm205.00mm145.00mm205.00mm52.00mm
A350185.00mm249.00mm185.00mm249.00mm52.00mm
A217195.00mm254.00mm195.00mm254.00mm53.00mm
A329209.00mm262.00mm209.00mm262.00mm54.00mm
A14000.00mm318.00mm0.00mm161.00mm55.00mm
A117X154.00mm211.00mm154.00mm211.00mm55.00mm
A14930.00mm245.00mm0.00mm211.00mm55.00mm
A61177.00mm234.00mm177.00mm234.00mm56.00mm
A126288.00mm338.00mm288.00mm338.00mm56.00mm
A216216.50mm281.50mm216.50mm281.50mm56.50mm
A4760.00mm334.00mm0.00mm134.00mm57.00mm
A4780.00mm263.00mm0.00mm149.00mm57.00mm
A23114.00mm159.00mm114.00mm159.00mm57.00mm
A14040.00mm300.00mm0.00mm170.00mm57.00mm
A134127.00mm175.00mm127.00mm175.00mm57.00mm
A309X110.00mm191.00mm110.00mm191.00mm57.00mm
A341253.50mm330.00mm152.00mm228.00mm57.00mm
A55201.00mm246.00mm201.00mm246.00mm57.00mm
A242X201.00mm270.00mm201.00mm270.00mm57.00mm
A1243221.00mm295.00mm221.00mm295.00mm57.00mm
A37




.		273.00mm





324.00mm





273.00mm





324.00mm





57.00mm
By ian57tbird - 11 Years Ago
The old filter I have that is the correct OD but is too tall, converts to 353mm. There is nothing available like that and 2.25 inches or 57mm tall over here that I have been able to find.
By Lex - 11 Years Ago
I use a filter for a 65 Mustang HP289. Its the correct size and has the orange rubber with the round metal holes. I get these from Mustangs Unlimited. All the T-bird resto books I have just list a black rubber with white paper pleats element and looks cheap to me.