Engine Run Stand Issue... looking for clean ideas


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By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
Fellas, the photo below is my current project, a mildly modified 272 ECG block that has a new mild cam, new rings, new bearings, etc to freshen it up. Excellent compression and tuned well (according to my specs, lol). Since this is the second one I have done like this on an engine run stand, and I have already begun assembling a C2AE block to hold a 312 crank, 471 heads, Isky blower cam, supercharger, and a few other goodies, it looks as if this is something that I will continue to do until I eventually acquire the car my built motor will go in.

I need an idea or two on rigging up a lever throttle control, much like what I have seen in the dynamometer videos. The only thing I can think of is a boat lever control or something...but do I really need something that expensive for what I am doing? I could rig something up, but I guess I am looking to either purchase or fabricate a throttle control that is a little bit more than a cable and knob, but not quite a throttle lever for a boat.

BTW, looks like I may have scored two free 292 blocks about 4 hours away from me. I rebuilt a teapot for an elderly gentlmen, and he was so happy with the work and service he offered them both to me if I would just come down and pick them up... I will let you know more later... BUT, it looks like there is a set of G heads to come.

By Oldmics - 12 Years Ago
Dan

I dont have a good suggestion about a throttle hookup but I do have a question about where that great looking stand came from?

Oldmics

By stuey - 12 Years Ago
Daniel

your timing is impeccable, i have nearly completed my motor which is still on the stand and your pictures of your test stand are just what the doctor ordered. what size is your box tubing? re throttle, how about a manual choke arrangement?

stuey

England

By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
Danny, Go to your local parts store and check out a lawnmower cable.Tongue
By Moz - 12 Years Ago
great minds think alike frank i was going to suggest a lawnmower throttle cable & control
By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
Yeah but Moz, you guys drive your lawnmowers on the wrong side of the lawn!Hehe
By pintoplumber - 12 Years Ago
Frank, you're pretty sharp today.
By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
As opposed to being the village idiot!Tongue
By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
Fellas,

I purchased this run stand a few year back, but I have obviously modified it to receive our Y block. It does look turn key and very clean, that's for sure. The company was called "Larin" and the Eastwood Compny up in PA used to sell these things about 3 years ago. I tried to buy another last year, and they simply told me that they no longer carry them. I believe the company is up in Canada. Here is a link to one for sale from some outlet I do not recognize....

http://www.mygaragestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=1011

I did not pay that much for mine. Something like $375 rings a bell. You could make your own, but for time constraints and all that it offered, I went ahead and purchased the kit. I did put 8" pneumatic tires on mine as you can see. The casters it shipped with were too short to get my engine hoist legs underneath of the frame of the run stand. I also purchased SAE gauges instead of the metric stuff it came with. And,,, I also fabbed up an angle iron fram to hold the radiator. I put an electric pump switch with bracket, etc, etc, etc.

I am looking to add a throttle lever that has some spring action to it so I can blip the throttle, but of course I also need a way to lock it down so I can easily break the camshaft/lifters in. The other day on this engine I felt pretty stupid when I cranked it up and was so happy at the initial start up and tune that when I was holding the carb butterflies open by hand I thought to myself... now what, lol. I could have shut it down, but it was running so well, I just stood there and held it. It's a Y block thing... all of us understand that! Tongue

By Timbo from Mempho - 12 Years Ago
Some PTO cables have a lockable feature.  NAPA carries them.
By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
Daniel Jessup (6/20/2012) ..but of course I also need a way to lock it down so I can easily break the camshaft/lifters in...


Do those older carbs not have an idle screw? Works well for break in with newer carbs.
By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago




Nice test stand! Have you considered installing a fan shroud? Or electric fan? For Safety?? A spinning fan is almost invisible...
By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
charliemccraney (6/20/2012)
Daniel Jessup (6/20/2012) ..but of course I also need a way to lock it down so I can easily break the camshaft/lifters in...

Do those older carbs not have an idle screw? Works well for break in with newer carbs.

Yes, haven't thought of the obvious. It does have an idle set screw, I guess I would have to play with that to see how far I could bump the "idle" up for any kind of a break in period.

By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
The Master Cylinder (6/20/2012)


Nice test stand! Have you considered installing a fan shroud? Or electric fan? For Safety?? A spinning fan is almost invisible...

Boy, you don't miss much. The photo is of the engine obviously running. I had really wanted to get a new radiator/electric fan combination to mount for this stand. I should do some homework and find a common radiator that will line up without much modification to what I have already existing. That would negate the fan attached to the water pump.

Do you happen to know if Ford ever made a shroud for the 55 and 56 Ford Passenger cars?

By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
Shouldn't be hard to get it to 2000rpm for breakin. If you don't run a fan blade you should at least blow a fan through the radiator. Chuck
By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
Dan, don't think Ford ever put a fan shroud on 55/56's. I don't know if any stock ones would fit our cars.



There is a after market one, but it's expensive; ThunderBird SouthWest



Jeg's has a couple of universal ones, here is one; JEG's



An electric fan with the radiator you have might be the best option. I have an electric 'pusher' on my Ranchwagon. Comes on at ~190°F , off at ~170° No fan on the water pump.



Sorry to be spending your money, just trying to keep you in one piece. w00t
By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
I run an electric puller fan on my roadster with a new aluminum radiator. There is no mechanical fan. With a 180 thermostat and the fan set to come on at 180 the fan rarely runs. Often it only comes on after I've driven a distance and turn the engine off. I know it kicks on while I'm driving but I've never seen the water temp over 190. Chuck
By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
Just got back from my trip down to Waverly, Virginia, about 4 hours away from me. Wayne was so happy with that teapot carburetor he had to show it off. I brought my engine run stand down for him to take a look at, and wouldn't you know it but one of the rear braces broke on the thing when I hit some hard road. I had to take a detour today when two truckers hit each other head on and the DOT closed down Hwy 460 both ways for about 3 or 4 miles. We did get it fixed pretty quickly though and Wayne enjoyed waking up the neighborhood. Tongue

He has a ways to go on his 56 Fordor, but his engine is running very well. He gets duals on Saturday.

He gave me a core 272 block that was prety much junk, bare and left out in the rain for about 20 years, lol. The other block was an EDB but it had ECZ-B heads, not G like I had hoped. The motor aint froze up though. I might try to fool with it just to see if I can get it to run. Wayne had a few parts cars lying around that he pretty much wanted me to take off his hands. One was a ROUGH 57 Ford 2 dr hardtop. A Y block was sitting in it, but I could not get at anything to see what the block letters were. The first letter on the VIN was C... I think that means a 292 right guys?

HOT day, but a good trip. Wayne and I had good time getting to know each other... and he had a great time resurrecting the Y block habit. I hope he can get on here with us...

dan

By chiggerfarmer - 12 Years Ago
Daniel, my IH Farmall tractors have a throttle that might suit what you want. It has a lever that is spring loaded from side to side, with a fan shaped row of notches for the lever to catch on. To operate it you move the lever sideways a little to free it from the notches and it moves easily. The spring holds it against the notches when you want it to stay in one place. I believe it just bolts to the steering post. Look at pictures of Farmall tractors from the 1950's, letter series A, B, C, etc.
By Daniel Jessup - 12 Years Ago
thanks for the tip on the Farmall tractor throttle levers.... next time I visit all of my tobacco raisin' family down in NC (yep, I've got a bunch of them) I will have to see what all they have in the barns. In the meantime, I will google some of those photos.

thanks!