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By B-rad - Last Month
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I got my 317 in the engjne bay with motor mount bolts over the holes in the frame piece. But the passenger side needsvto go right a bit but that'll push the driver side bolt too far from the hole.
Are the motor mounts the same or are they side specific? It wont be too difficult to switch them out but its like 95 in the shop these days.
First pic is passenger side mount and 2nd on is driver side. Both taken from front of car. The rubber will look strange as i had to make them myself. 
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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The 1954 LINC 317CI mounts are the same for either side (brackets - insulators).
Engine mounts shown on LS of ILL -
Did you contact https://www.lincolnoldparts.com/ to see if they have the 54 insulators? They show 52-53.
Do you have a good upper and lower insulator in case they can be rebuilt?
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By B-rad - Last Month
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I made the upper rectangular rubber pieces, the lower conical shape ones are good. Both bolts need to go toward the center of the car so they both wont line up. That's why I was asking if they are the same. The pictures you posted are not the same rubber parts as mine. AI said they are side specific with different part numbefs, so I'm going to switch them just to see. Theres no reason they won't line up otherwise
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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The pictures you posted are not the same rubber parts as mine. AI said they are side specific with different part numbefs ...
Do you have photos of the take-out insulators? It may be what you took out are not assembly as replacements seem to be hard to find.
Who's Al and where is he sourcing his information?
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By B-rad - Last Month
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AI is chat gpt
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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I think what you took off are 1956/ mounts ...
Look @ this and give them a call - https://www.lincolnoldparts.com/mount-motor-1718.html
1952-1955 Lincoln & 1957 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser 368 CI
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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1956/1957   One more favor if you will. Is the engine out or suspended high enough to photo the cross-member and engine supports mounting plate?
I am on a steep learning curve here as I never got around a LINC as early as this one.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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Wow. It sure does seem like this has the wrong mounts. It was secure when i took the engine out and it all lined up. I'm gonna switch them probably in the morning. No idea why its not lining up. Cross fingers.
Where did you get those pics, cuz my manual doesnt have any info about the mounts. The metal parts look to be the same, just the upper insulators are different. I will be contacting lincolnoldparts for the right insulators. Thanks for doing the researching and I'll try to get pics of the cross member and mounting plates.
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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Yeah, check with them for the final answer as I only have the 1952-54 LINC CHASSIS PARTS CAT and the 1956-59 LINC MPC, no 1955 cataloging.
The brackets (6028) are the same for all years (1952-1957) but the insulators (upper) changed in 1956 (new car platform design). This is where I am going. But the brackets (6028) should go back into the frame mounts if they came out (possibly bent or the later design upper insulators or fabricated cause the mis-match?).
I am thinking an original owner could not find the correct upper insulators and went with the later design.
Appreciate greatly the photos.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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Switched the mounts. No difference. I don't believe the insulator shape will make a difference either. 6028 bolts soludly to the block and the bolts going down thru the holes are welded on straight. The rubber parts won't change where they end up. Still have to get them a inch narrower. Strange. Can't make the block narrower nor can i move the mount holes.
And i couldnt get any pics, engine too low and a super pita lifting it again. Dorry
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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Look at what I tripped across -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/190679269841
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112608263802
Aftermarket insulators and see what they say -
New engine mounts are now available all the '52-59 Lincoln's. (Note: Replaces the round mount on '52-53 models). Includes a complete set of 2-rectangle and 2-round donuts, enough for one vehicle.
It may be that the 1954 had the rectangular insulators. I guess they fit 1952-1957 LYB and 1958-1959 MEL (430).
Still doesn't explain why the engine bracket studs won't align into the frame mounts. They came out without a fight?
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By MoonShadow - Last Month
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Losen up the bolts on the block to get a bit more play. You are putting a V into a V. The bolts will spread slightly as they go in the holes. On my Y-Block its sometimes easier to get one side in and the push/wiggle the engine sideways to get the other one in the hole.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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Actually I'm putting a bolt in a hole. The bottom of the upper mount has a 1" ish round protruding area that fits into a similarly size hole in the frame mount.
I thought about loosening the bolts holding the mount to the block but wasn't sure about tightening it back up again, if i was able to get the protrusions into the hole. I didn't want to damage the threads in the block.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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The bottom of 6038 has the protrusion i speak of. In this picture. It fits in a hile of similar size in the frame mount area.  
Do how do I move them an inch or so so they fit in the hole in the frame? I'll try to loosen them up and try to fit the protrusion into the hole and tighten to the block. I might try to put something behind the top of the mount, above the bolts to try to bring the mount bolts inward so the holes line up.
I was not expecting there to be an issue lining up these mounts.
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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I don't see any alternative than what was suggested loosening the brackets enough until they will hit the frame mount holes. Maybe once the insulators set on the frame mount correctly, tighten the bracket bolts before putting the full engine weight on them (or not tighten fully until trans is installed and tightened down)..
Are you considering the store bought insulators?
The mount you removed from the brackets are correct for 1954. I came across a 1955 LINC CHASSIS PARTS MANUAL.
The stamped steel frame mounts, how are they attached to the tubular cross-member?
You have the correct year WORKSHOP MANUAL?
And when you pulled the engine, the mount studs did not catch and cause the chassis to rise any?
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By B-rad - Last Month
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It was probably 3 years since I removed the engine but I don't recollect any catching of the studs on the frame mounts that I can remember.
I know these parts were on the car so they must go back on. I'm going to be loosening the mounting bolts on the block and attempt to get the parts to line up and then tighten the bolts again. I'm a little concerned about tightening them if there's some weird angles in play that may mess up the threads.
As far as the other insulators are concerned, I don't see where the conical shape vs the rectangular shape would make any difference in the lining up issue.
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By KULTULZ - Last Month
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"As far as the other insulators are concerned, I don't see where the conical shape vs the rectangular shape would make any difference in the lining up issue."
I meant using a quality set of OEM or aftermarket insulators instead of the home made ones.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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Not for over 200 dollars.
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By B-rad - Last Month
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Finally installed!!!!!  What a pain in the butt getting the oil filter housing back on. Worked on it for almost half hour and still didn't get it. Tricks????
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