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By HazardTBird - Last Year
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I have to replace the rear main seal in my 57 T Bird (in the car) and ordered an oil pan gasket set just in case. When I received it I recognized the oil pump inlet rubber/steel gasket and the copper gasket used at the inlet tube/oil pan join but don't know what the smaller rubber gasket is or where it goes. I also don't know what the other paper gaskets are either, but I assume that they are Ford Car (or truck) specific.
I do have a small leak at the inlet tube/oil pan join which I would like to fix as part of this work. When I installed this area originally I used a gasket on the inside of the oil pan and another on the outside of the oil pan. I remember reading in Ted's (or others) writings that you should just use the copper gasket on the inside of the oil pan only with no gasket on the outside of the pan; is this correct?
The small rubber gasket fits very nicely inside the copper gasket and its I.D. looks to be the same as the inlet tube O.D.; do you use that rubber gasket at the Tube/Oil pan join?
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By charliemccraney - Last Year
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The paper gaskets are for early pans, where the oil pickup tube is a two piece design. I'll guess that the additional rubber seal is to seal the two pieces of that early tube where they join.
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By HazardTBird - Last Year
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Thanks Charlie, that makes sense. The copper gasket on the inside of the pan the only gasket used at the oil pan/tube join?
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By charliemccraney - Last Year
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Yes, only the copper washer on the inside for the one piece pickup tubes.
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By HazardTBird - Last Year
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Thanks again Charlie!
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By KULTULZ - 11 Months Ago
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By KULTULZ - 11 Months Ago
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GENTLEMEN -
There is a member over @ FORD BARN that needs the gaskets shown in the FEL-PRO set in an above post, hopefully without buying a complete gasket set. I can have him contact you for payment and shipping.
The car is a 54 MERC 256CI. In addition, HARRY ARMSTRONG over tightened the tube seal to the pump distorting the tube and embedding the crush sleeve on the tube. Does anyone have one NOS or take-off (EBU 6639-B)?
Thread on FORD BARN - https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=335255
THANX! For Any Help ...
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By Ted - 10 Months Ago
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Kultulz. Pass it on that I have the oil pump inlet seals and the two gaskets for the interior and exterior pan to tube attachment for the 1954 oil pans. I do not have the flat rubber washer that sandwiches between those two inlet tubes at the oil pan though but any appropriately sized O ring will work at that spot.
As far as the deformation in the tube, I use a ½” diameter steel drift to remove the crush caused by using the non-Ford steel banded inlet seals. Some white or lithium grease works as a sealant on those ‘all rubber, no steel’ inlet seals when installing them.
I can be contacted through my shop email and that information is located on the ‘Contact Us’ tab at www.eatonbalancing.com .
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By KULTULZ - 10 Months Ago
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TED, I APPRECIATE THE HELL OUT OF YOUR HELP! ...
The guy is in a quandary.
Is this the correct seal? I am just going by what was posted on EvilBay as not everything is as advertised ...
This PN is what the MPC shows but I just want to make sure it is packaged correctly. BEST GASKETS shows it in their complete kit but I doubt if they would sell it separate.
The seal @ the oil pan flange is of rubber, .63" ID - .91" OD - .12" THICK - FORD PN B4A 6643-A
I wish I was not so damn ugly and broken down as I would love to come down there and meet you (and see your shop/business).
You are good people.
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By HazardTBird - 10 Months Ago
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Kultulz;
I have that rubber gasket (I think), Felpro gasket set, and won't be using it as I have the one piece tube on everything I've got. I will get in the shop tonight and check that it matches the dimensions you gave and will post tomorrow if they don't match. If I don't post they matched and then we will work out how I can get it to you or your buddy.
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By KULTULZ - 10 Months Ago
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HazardTBird (2/1/2024)
Kultulz; I have that rubber gasket (I think), Felpro gasket set, and won't be using it as I have the one piece tube on everything I've got. I will get in the shop tonight and check that it matches the dimensions you gave and will post tomorrow if they don't match. If I don't post they matched and then we will work out how I can get it to you or your buddy. MUCHLY APPRECIATED! From 'THE OTHER SIDE' ... The needed seal missing is BEST GASKET PN 275.
It is shown in the complete overhaul gasket set RS572-G-4. I do not know if they sell it apart from the complete kit. I think you have to go through a parts jobber as they do not sell direct.
It is also shown in the FEL-PRO kit shown on the thread @ y-blocks.forever. FEL-PRO may sell it separate.
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By KULTULZ - 10 Months Ago
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HazardTBird (2/1/2024)
Kultulz; I have that rubber gasket (I think), Felpro gasket set, and won't be using it as I have the one piece tube on everything I've got. I will get in the shop tonight and check that it matches the dimensions you gave and will post tomorrow if they don't match. If I don't post they matched and then we will work out how I can get it to you or your buddy. If you haven't had the time to look for that gasket, just let it go. The OP had the gaskets sent to him by another member @ FORD BARN. Appreciate yours and Ted's help.
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By HazardTBird - 10 Months Ago
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KULTULZ
Measured last night, got 0.65 x 0.88 x 0.12 vs. the 0.63 x 0.91 x 0.12 you noted so got to be the right one (little hard to measure rubber I.D & O.D.). I've got if you need it.
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By KULTULZ - 10 Months Ago
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KULTULZ
Measured last night, got 0.65 x 0.88 x 0.12 vs. the 0.63 x 0.91 x 0.12 you noted so got to be the right one (little hard to measure rubber I.D & O.D.). I've got if you need it.
If you didn't notice my previous post just above yours , it seems the OP does not need the gasket as he has been advised an oil pan drain plug gasket will work (don't ask).
I greatly appreciate your time and effort. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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