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By MoonShadow - 6 Years Ago
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I'm looking at connecting the heater on my 56. I cannot access the normal connector on the top of the intake because of the supercharger. There is a screw plug on the top side of the water pump. I assume this will have pressure. My other thought is to put an inline adapter in the upper radiator hose to connect the return line. The radiator is aluminum and at some time I could put the heater hoses direct to it with AN fittings. Have any of you found a better way to solve this problem?
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By paul2748 - 6 Years Ago
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I can't offer a solution, but if you want to go with the inline thing the early flathheads used such an inline fitting (used in the lower radiator hose) that I am sure is available aftermarket.
MoonShadow (10/17/2019)
I'm looking at connecting the heater on my 56. I cannot access the normal connector on the top of the intake because of the supercharger. There is a screw plug on the top side of the water pump. I assume this will have pressure. My other thought is to put an inline adapter in the upper radiator hose to connect the return line. The radiator is aluminum and at some time I could put the heater hoses direct to it with AN fittings. Have any of you found a better way to solve this problem?
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By miker - 6 Years Ago
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I’m not sure that’s pressure. I don’t have a plug on my water pump on top, but pressure is out the back and into the block, then the intake and out the thermostat housing. I think the outer perimeter is suction, that’s where the bypass hose goes from below the stat.
Someone will know for sure.
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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The pressure side is at the intake manifold behind the thermostat. The return(s) are @ the WP.
Can you post a photo of your intake to see is an elbow will fit?
1957 Shown, but it will give the idea -
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By MoonShadow - 6 Years Ago
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I took a few pictures today around the water neck. There is a boss when the heater hose pipe would be but its not drilled out and its too close to the supercharger to put one there. Perhaps on the water passage going into the head? Also a picture of the water pump plug. I think this is normally one of the locations for a heater hose connection. Maybe I could put a boss in the water passage and the water pump.
 
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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... hmmpf ...
Goes to show I have never seen a SC install before.
There are two ways out as I see it. Is the intake a 57 SC specific? If not (and you would not want to modify an origional), you could put an outlet in the intake manifold front coolant runner (drill and tap w/ fitting), the only problem being without any type of coolant recovery bottle air bubbles may be sucked into the heater core.
You could fashion a tee to put into the WP by-pass hose as the by-pass is behind the thermostat and will send heated water to the core.
The pipe plug you show in the pump housing is suction/return.
I have never seen a SC FYB. Wonder how they did it on the '57?
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By Cliff - 6 Years Ago
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Google an Edelbrock 257 that should help
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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Google an Edelbrock 257 that should help.
BINGO!
EDIT -
If still not enough room for an elbow, this is how it was done on the 57 FORD ECG-D 8V Intake -
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By 57RancheroJim - 6 Years Ago
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The heated water hose goes into the heater core bottom inlet, the heater fills from the bottom, that prevents the air bubble problem, just the opposite of the way a radiator works.
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By charliemccraney - 6 Years Ago
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Tell the Y-Bloke about that and send pictures so that he can potentially correct that on future castings.
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By MoonShadow - 6 Years Ago
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Good idea Charlie. Probably not something he thought about since I would think very few supercharged Y's get run in cold weather.
Kultulz, I'm running a 4-71 GMC style supercharger with a manifold from the Y-Bloke from Australia. The 57 had a centrifical supercharger similar to a Paxton. They front mounted on the engine. This setup is on top of the engine.
 
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By miker - 6 Years Ago
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Kultulz,
This is a passenger car set up (clone) F code. It has the VR supercharger. The air ducting is custom to the car, and it uses a Blue Thunder intake, but it’s pretty much the same in layout as a 57 manifold. You can see the heater hose connection (hard line) just in front of the carb.
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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Kultulz, I'm running a 4-71 GMC style supercharger with a manifold from the Y-Bloke from Australia. The 57 had a centrifical supercharger similar to a Paxton. They front mounted on the engine. This setup is on top of the engine.
THANX! for the explanation. I fully understand now.
I was thinking belt driven for some reason.
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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This is a passenger car set up (clone) F code. It has the VR supercharger. The air ducting is custom to the car, and it uses a Blue Thunder intake, but it’s pretty much the same in layout as a 57 manifold. You can see the heater hose connection (hard line) just in front of the carb.
THANX! Mike.
I am on a steep learning curve this morning. Most everything I had was junkyard dog.
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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The heated water hose goes into the heater core bottom inlet, the heater fills from the bottom, that prevents the air bubble problem, just the opposite of the way a radiator works.
Appreciate that but you don't want any air bubbles going to the core as it reduces heater efficiency and can lead to air lock.
If you notice, on the heater control valve and most elbows, FORD used an immersion tube to draw coolant from the bottom of the coolant crossover to reduce the possibility of air ingestion (any air bubbles staying at top of coolant).
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By 57RancheroJim - 6 Years Ago
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It was designed that way but they never lasted long I guess, every old one I have removed the tube was long gone 
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By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
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Kultulz, I'm running a 4-71 GMC style supercharger with a manifold from the Y-Bloke from Australia.
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