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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Hey guys, this site was recommended to me. I recently purchased a 1961 Ford F100 Uni with a 292. I haven't gotten under it yet but I think it still has the original "canister" type oil filter. I'd like to do a good oil change on this and if its not already on possibly add the spin filter adapter. My question is what type of oil is recommended? I've been to use a detergent oil but honestly do not know what that is, or just use conventional with a detergent additive. I don't think the oil has been changed on this truck for some time. Any advice would be great....Duke.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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I honestly do not know why this posted twice and I apologize for that.
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By DryLakesRacer - 9 Years Ago
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I use 10-30 Castrol in mine and change every 6 months no matter the milage. I changed to a spin on filter by buying and original and not a replacement. You will get a lot of recommendations here. Not sure if you should use any kind of engine flush ( others will chime in) but I have read some put in a quart of ATF with the oil change and drive the truck until every thing gets good and hot, maybe 30-40 miles, then drain the oil hot. Other products work for this too. Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind. Good Luck and welcome....
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By paul2748 - 9 Years Ago
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Use a regular detergent oil. A 10/40 would be a good choice. Most oil today is detergent oil, especially the multi viscosity ones.
I thought Ford went to spin-ons in all vehicles starting with 1957 (trucks come later??)
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By Talkwrench - 9 Years Ago
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Welcome Duke. The spin on adapter is readily available, a little tip use some contact glue to attach the O ring to the plate then attach it. Oil, well everyone has an opinion, some even run diesel oil.. If the engine is in good condition a good quality multi grade mineral oil 20 -50 wt with a decent level of ZDDP in it should be all you need if your in a moderate climate. Are you mechanically minded? The Y Block can have issues with getting oil to the rockers. It could pay to remove the pan and see how much gunk is in there and if the pickup screen is blocked. Take your rocker covers off and run the engine and see if there is oil getting to the rockers, not a lot comes out and it can take a while for it to come through one side but you should always see evidence of oil on each , if its dry you have problems.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Thanks for the replies. Not sure what year Ford went to the spin filter but mine is the cartridge type. Ive found these at parts stores but some people keep their original in. If thats the case do I even remove it at all? Ive heard good and bad about the conversion kit but the contact glue is a good idea.
Thanks for the oil recommendations. Ill look at a 10w 40. Ive also heard of people using the zddp additive. I'm mechanically inclined but never done much engine work to be honest.
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By Oldmics - 9 Years Ago
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Dukeroche
Just to add some information about your newly acquired 292. All of the Y Block engines have solid lifter camshafts. Your choice of oil has to include ZDDP (which is zinc) in its composition.
In the good old days zinc was a common additive to the oils used when these engines were new. Nowadays the quanity of zinc has been reduced in the oil chemestry. Lack of zinc in the oil used will produce catostrophic results - camshaft failure,premature lifter wear and more.
If not absolutly sure about the quanity of zinc that is in the oil you choose,please make sure to add some thru the many oil suppliments availiable.
I"m one of those diesel oil using guys.My brand is Shell Rotella at 15-40 weight. It currently has 1100 ppm of zinc in its makeup.Its not advisable to use an oil with less than 1000ppm in any solid lifter engines.
Going to the spin on adaptor is a good idea. Just make sure that the adaptor you acquire is absolutly flat so that it does not leak aroung the gasket.
Theres a lot of good guys here to help you along as we all love our Y Blocks.
Oldmics
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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The Shell Rotella 15w-40 has been recommended by several people so that might be what I go with. I would much prefer the spin on filter so an adaption might be what I do. I'm sure its not hard but hopefully the adapter comes with some form of instruction. Either way I'll keep the old setup somewhere incase I want to go back to it. What size spin on filter would it get? I generally go with Motorcraft. I'm looking to get manuals on Ebay because I honestly don't know how many quarts it would take.
I very much appreciate the help from everyone. This is a great site.
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By 62bigwindow - 9 Years Ago
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I think the Motorcraft filter is Fl-1A. It the most common Ford filter. I use the Wix equivalent. Also your motor should hold 5 quarts plus 1 for the filter. Be sure to post some pics of your ride. And welcome aboard!
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Is this the conversion kit needed?
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Tried to post a pic of the folter conversion kit but I don't think it turned out. Got lots of pics of the truck. I'll post tonight.
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By 57RancheroJim - 9 Years Ago
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62bigwindow (2/24/2016)
I think the Motorcraft filter is Fl-1A. It the most common Ford filter. I use the Wix equivalent. Also your motor should hold 5 quarts plus 1 for the filter. Be sure to post some pics of your ride. And welcome aboard! I use the WIX filters also, but now that Fram bought Wix I wonder what kind of filter will be in the box?
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Anyone have a pic of the filter conversion kit? I tried to post one but it didn't come out. Want to make sure I get the right thing. Also, if I decide not to switch over when I do an oil change is it essential to change out that cartridge? I'm reading some reviews and some say they keep the original.
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By Dobie - 9 Years Ago
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The canister filters do a better job and will hold more particulates but eventually they do need to be changed. I'd change it just for peace of mind. Most auto parts store either stock the cartridge or can order them. Be aware it's a messy job.
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By NoShortcuts - 9 Years Ago
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Dukeroche (2/24/2016)
Is this the conversion kit needed?
Click the link below and be sure to read the entry from Ted (Eaton) on the page that opens. Ted mentions the problem with some of the aftermarket oil filter adapters that are being made off-shore. Some are mislabeled regarding installation.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic119490.aspx#bm119518
Hope this helps. 
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Actually for now I think I'll stick with the original setup. May go with a 10w-40 with a zinc additive. Ill post pics soon.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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I should ask is there a post or directions on posting pics?
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By NoShortcuts - 9 Years Ago
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Dukeroche (2/24/2016)
Anyone have a pic of the filter conversion kit? I tried to post one but it didn't come out. Want to make sure I get the right thing. Also, if I decide not to switch over when I do an oil change is it essential to change out that cartridge? I'm reading some reviews and some say they keep the original.
Here's an original used one from eBay. Click the link below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-Y-BLOCK-239-256-272-292-312-SCREW-ON-OIL-FILTER-ADAPTER-/272143431507?hash=item3f5d033753:m:mgCcUu2fd7YFVcy2RO_sjkw&vxp=mtr
Here's another eBay listing for a complete conversion kit with gasket and directions. APPEARS to be a reputable seller of Ford parts. -Over 17,000 eBay transactions recorded, eBay participant since 2004.
Click the link below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-1958-1959-57-58-59-FORD-272-292-312-SPIN-ON-OIL-FILTER-ADAPTER-NEW-/191706738292?hash=item2ca29cae74:g:4KcAAOSwKIpWDw5O&vxp=mtr
Used might be better than one of those made who-knows-where?!? Consider sending an inquiry note to the seller of the new one after reading his description and seeing the pictures of what he's got
Hope this helps
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By 62bigwindow - 9 Years Ago
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If your using a smart phone it super easy. Just click on the picture icon in the lower left corner if the reply box and then choose the file you want and then image. Trust me if I can do it anyone can.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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I like the idea of getting the conversion kit from eBay that came from Ford. Just have to findthe sseparate gasket.
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By DryLakesRacer - 9 Years Ago
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Even tho I went to the conversion I would have left it canister but the PS lines made it a pain. A spin-on is nice because you can punch a hole with an awl or ice pick and let it drain while draining the pan.. Good Luck.
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By Riz - 9 Years Ago
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Fwiw it's a little more pricy but I go with the Joe Gibbs racing oil.
But an extra $50 a year is pretty cheap.
No additives needed
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By paul2748 - 9 Years Ago
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That looks like it but I went back to the canister on my 56 Bird after failures (yes more than one) with the spin on adapters.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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I want to get the spin on kit kit made by Ford. The used one doesn't offer the gasket so I'm searching for one. May still stick with original, thanks for all the help guys.
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By 57RancheroJim - 9 Years Ago
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Riz (2/25/2016)
Fwiw it's a little more pricy but I go with the Joe Gibbs racing oil. But an extra $50 a year is pretty cheap. No additives needed This the first engine I have used the Gibbs conventional HR2 oil, little over 6000 miles and no problems.
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By 57RancheroJim - 9 Years Ago
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I've read dozens of posts about after market adapters leaking. I've never had a Ford adapter leak..
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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I agree Jim. But i cant find just a gasket to go with the used Ford conversation kit.
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By PF Arcand - 9 Years Ago
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Duke; you're not breaking in the engine, so the 10 or 15-40 oil will have suitable zinc alloy in it. Our site Moderator, Ted, does not recommend on going use of extra zinc, apparently due to the possibility of it causing pitting. Oils to be avoided are those designed for late model roller valve train engines. They are those that have the Pin Wheel Gear on the label, as they are low Zinc alloy & are designed to meet long term warranty standards for Catalytic Convertors... Oils like Rottella T are very high in detergent, primarily for Diesel use. I've used it briefly, to help clean a somewhat dirty engine, but there are some that question it's regular use in flat tappet engines, so the Jury may still be out on that subject..
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By BamaBob - 9 Years Ago
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Duke, When I changed my 292 Yblock over to the spin-on oil filter, I used an adapter off another engine I had. Like you, I did not have a new gasket, so I went to the parts house and bought a new canister filter which comes with a new gasket that fits perfectly under the adapter base. I discarded the new canister filter because I didn't then need it. Just to be sure the adapter base didn't leak, and I wouldn't be removing it any time soon, I used gasket sealer on both sides of the gasket before installing the adapter. Been several years now with no leaks and a much easier and less messy oil change.
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By Triple7 - 9 Years Ago
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I know that everybody has their own beliefs about oil I also know that I use 10/30 with a zinc additive with every change. I get it at the local powerhouse.
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By Dukeroche - 9 Years Ago
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Thanks everyone for the help. I really appreciate all the advice.
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