By jimcar-9 - 11 Years Ago
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Hi
I have found an edelbrock 553 or 573 (not got answere yet) with 94:s in refurbished working condition but without linkage and fuel lines?
Whats a fair deal if al of the part is working.
How can I identify if one of the carbs is a "primary" or what you say?
Thanks for all feedabck I can get. Thanks.
I was planing on a mummert intake and a 4160 but if I can strike a good deal on this one I think thats much better. Am I wrong or ....???
Thanks in advance
Jimmy
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By jimcar-9 - 11 Years Ago
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Here is a picture of it
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By charliemccraney - 11 Years Ago
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jimcar-9 (10/19/2013) I was planing on a mummert intake and a 4160 but if I can strike a good deal on this one I think thats much better. Am I wrong or ....??? It depends what you are after. If it is the look of multiple carbs, then the 3x2s is better, whatever the price may be. If it is reasonable performance, either should do fine. If it is the most cost effective performance, bang for buck, the 4v will be the way to go.
I can't really help with your other questions, but I'd want documentation for the refurbished carburetors. If there is no documentation indicating what refurbished means, then they are core carburetors in my opinion that will need to be refurbished. With that in mind, the max I'd offer for a good intake and core carbs is probably about $500.00. If the carbs are really rebuilt, functioning like new, and set up for 3x2 use, maybe closer to $1000. I really don't know what it costs to have those carbs restored. That is something I'd research before I buy. Then figure maybe about $200 for the miscellaneous other things you will need to get it all working. So my best guess is that you can expect to pay about twice as much for the 3x2's when it is all said and done, assuming that you have absolutely nothing 3x2 related to start with..
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By The Master Cylinder - 11 Years Ago
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FYI that's a early 553 manifold for the small port heads. Which is fine, just don't let someone charge you "big port" prices.
Thing is, when working with three two you have to remember every part you may need you have to buy three of.
If your not confident on tuning a three two setup you will more than likely enjoy the Mummert/Holley setup better.
I see you have a '56 Ford. If you have the original distributor you should replace it with a '57 up distributor. The Load-o-matic distributor will not work properly with the newer four barrels.
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By Daniel Jessup - 11 Years Ago
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Get your 3-2 linkage from Honest Charley's speed shop (I think in Tennessee?). I have purchased about a half dozen kits from them and the fellas I helped said they all worked well. I believe they were in the neighborhood of $50 or so. Speedway Inc out in Illinois? also sales a good 3 deuce linkage for about the same price.
Charlie and the other guys bring up a good point about the carbs. Their "working condition" changes the pricing dramatically. The last Edelbrock 553 I sold ... I got $250 for it. Expect a 573 to go for more because like Master Cylinder said... it has larger ports. The carbs are fairly easy to rebuild and tune. I would check to see how much play, if any, the butterfly shaft would have in the bore of the base. After years of use, the 94's hole boss for the shaft gets worn oblong right there where the linkage connecting is made. Vacuum leak central and hard to chase down if you didn't know what you were looking for. There are kits you can use to drill out the hole and press a bushing into it, but I have never used them. I have always either located a good base or have simply drilled out the hole a smidge and used an O-ring.
In your photo that middle carb (which is supposed to be where the primary carb sits in the row of course) does have what looks to be an original Fordomatic anti-stall dashpot. I guess that would be the primary carb that someone would have put together.
I would want to know why this is all set up to go with a clean intake and 3 decent looking carbs from the photo but there is no linkage/plumbing but the seller knows that this setup is in "working condition"?
But, you are in Sweden I see and I am sure that parts are HARD TO FIND compared to what we have here in the states.
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By PF Arcand - 11 Years Ago
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All the points previously mentioned are worth considering, however, I noted that your engine is a 272, so the Edelbrock 553 might be the best choice, "if" the carbs are in good shape & or the price is right for the setup. Importing a Mummert intake & late 4 barrel & replacing the early distributor with a 57 & up, may be a more expensive route. You'd need to price it out as best you can to decide..
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By Doug T - 11 Years Ago
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Looking at your blog I see that you do not have the stock original carb, what is there is a later model Ford 2100 flat top carb. So the very first thing to check is that the distributor is a late model one with centrifugal advance under the points plate. If you have the stock distributor, get rid of it if you keep that carb or go with a late model 4 bbl.
For the 3/2's if you are going strictly for appearance you can just block off the outside carbs and run the center one. That carb will be set up for the stock '56 distributor (nearly) so you would get more or less the proper ignition advance.
For my '56 truck (now sadly sold) I built a 302" 292 with G heads, cam, a ported iron 4 bbl manifold and a Ford Flat top 4100 carb '57 distributor and ram's horns ex manifolds. It ran really well.
The important thing is to coordinate the changes. If all you do is add the 3/2's you wont get much improvement but the wow factor at car shows may be enough.
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By Grizzly - 11 Years Ago
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Jim,
That's a 553 and a nice clean unit. You can easily tell it's a 553 as it has no rear vacuum port and the numbers have strangly disapeared.
As you live away from the States (like me) there is value in having something close and available, postage is a killer. There has been good advice before. The only thing I can add is that the seller is responsible for providing the inital price. You can negotiate from there.
There is a number of ways to set up triples a quick search of google will fill you with knowledge. Blocking idle circuits and changing power valves amongst them. There are better (Demon 98's) and newer, both holley 94's and stromberg 97's available.
There is also information on this forum. a comarision of triple manifolds.
Regards
Warren
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By bird55 - 11 Years Ago
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Having vintage triple carb setup is a labor of love.
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By The Master Cylinder - 11 Years Ago
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Grizzly (11/14/2013)
Jim, That's a 553 and a nice clean unit. You can easily tell it's a 553 as it has no rear vacuum port and the numbers have strangly disapeared. Regards Warren
I also have a 553 with no numbers and I've seen others... There are several ways to tell it a 553 along with the absence of the vac port, one being the presence of the throttle linkage mount on the back. 557's don't have that mount.
Nice piece...
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