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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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But still with old stock bottom end... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOm6MC1hSs&list=UUxZ94DRcBfpz0DstGIV1_QA&index=2&feature=plcp Otherwise good tuning session, but three plugs fouled maybe due too rich condition and quess can you find new spark plugs on Sunday here in Finland  . 
Simo banging laptop and Jyrki watching but not understanding... 
Jyrki in the cabin. 
Simo's Mustang and Jyrki's Country Sedan
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Right On! Installing new engine in Jake as we speak.  bla bla
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By 57 ranchwagon - 12 Years Ago
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Super cool looking forward to seeing some runs.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Well I put a new steering column in my roadster today. Not much but at least I did something.  ChuckLove the twin turbo!
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By Glen Henderson - 12 Years Ago
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Funny Chuck, I have been working on engineering up a steering colume for my 57 custom today.
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By 57FordPU - 12 Years Ago
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That is really exciting Seppo. Sometimes I think it would be such great fun to have a group project. Not just to share the work load, but to share all the excitement the instant it is happening. Accountability, motivation and sharing costs would all be at play.
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By Ketterbros - 12 Years Ago
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Lets see here, sitting in stand, Brats, Iron City Beer, bunch of scrub lovers, and this up against a 283/327 scrub...? Oooops, forgot they don't run those land fills any more.. Please bring your ride to the states, preferably TEXAS.. Mesquite
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Ok, here is the entry list so far for the first event May 19th and as you can see, people do have big engines in their rides! We are the one and only team with under 300 cid  . Is bigger always better? Hope, we will run 16 ladder Elimination, so we can run also on Sunday 20th even just one run before dropping out...1 SPET 276 Pesonen Dragster 461 cid 2 SPET 1447 Korhonen Ford Mustang 370 cid 3 SPET 1666 Tekoniemi Amc Javelin SST 512 cid 4 SPET 1672 Korpela Timo Dragster 427 cid 5 SPET 1690 Palosaari Pontiac Firebird 572 cid 6 SPET 1810 Söderqvist Pontiac TransAm 565 cid 7 SPET 1926 Mattila Ford T-26 355 cid 8 SPET 1928 Köykkä Ford A-28 397 cid 9 SPET 1934 Norén Ford 3 W Coupe 383 cid 10 SPET 1937 Laitinen Chevrolet Camaro RS 540 cid 11 SPET 1958 Peltonen Ford T-23 Altered 292 cid 12 SPET 1960 Kivineva Ford Mustang 355 cid 13 SPET 1966 Heiskanen Front Engine Dragster 355cid 14 SPET 1975 Junikka Plymouth Barracuda 340cid 15 SPET 1984 Niemi Toyota Corolla DX -84 504 cid
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Quite succesfull session... Not only Fuel Pump code in Megasquirt messed up. Now is Fuel pump relay driver transistor and Fuel Pump Relay also broken.
Too bad that mechanical fuel pump don't work with electronic injection...I think, I cannot break that.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Well.... eehh... It died today Only one run and then one original 1962 cast piston from cylinder #5 broke and then the number #5 connecting rod broke and it broke the camshaft and that allowed four lifters to fall down from cylinders 1 and 5 and also four push rods fell down to oil pan! So, not exactly what we were after at, but it really pushes hard at the end. At the start all the fuel maps are not correct yet, but the feeling is that those turbos really hit hard when the time comes. And defenitely too hard to stock parts . No worries, we'll be back on track with the new bottom end and we hope we didn't broke that forged crankshaft. The block may well be dead also, but that is another story and we'll find out that later... 
And data tells us that we had only 0.52 bar of boost at that run.
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By PF Arcand - 12 Years Ago
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Re broken piston etc. Is pressure the problem? Or as you noted the fuel setup isn't right, & what about timing? So, could it be detonation?..
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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I think that was just a symptom of old cast piston and a big volume of air mass coming into engine. i don't think detonation as an issue as both head gaskets were ok this time and on that left bank there was a Fel-Pro blue gasket which I installed there back in 2007. But, anyway that was totally a shot in the dark as we didn't go to dyno with that old bottom end. With the new engine we will definetely do that before going to the track. It's a bit hard to figure out those wastegate settings etc. without dynoing the engine. And, when Simo gets all the data out of a laptop, we will know more. Anyhow, that 0.52 bar pressure was present at only 4200 rpm at the end of the track. The start was at about 1500 rpm and it really didn't pick up well. Time was someting around 13.3 and we didn't even bother to pick up the time slip. Well, it would be nice to know what happened between half of the track and the end because jyrki said it started to pull quite hard at that point...
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Guys. That’s a big ouch. Those pistons being fifty years old sure didn’t help. The new engine will undoubtedly alleviate some of those breakage issues. Thanks for the pics though.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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I spent the whole morning in the garage and just got the autopsy done. Just what we thought and seems that the crank survived with external scratches. Camshaft atleast in four pieces and bent pushrods all over the engine . 
But hey, that's racing! Don't try this with over fifty years old parts .
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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Gotta say The Rapture looks BAD just sitting in your pit area. Did any of the "fifty year old parts " pass thru your turbos? And do any damage in there?
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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By yfreak57 - 12 Years Ago
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But hey, those 3 seconds were FUN!!! It pushed really hard...
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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More crazy pics... 
This used to be a piston... awhile ago! 
Crank survived amazingly well. Just have to get that con rod off... somehow! 
Just before the run . 
After the run .
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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OUCH!!! I was kinda busy this weekend and missed this post. Sorry to see this happen, you guys are an inspiration to us all so pick up the pieces and start over. bla bla
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By yfreak57 - 12 Years Ago
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The Master Cylinder (5/20/2012)
Did any of the "fifty year old parts " pass thru your turbos? And do any damage in there? No damage in turbos. The boost put all scrap down and valves went close just after "white smoke" and big bang... 
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Good news. The block is ok and it is now bored out and stress honed to take those SRP pistons inside of it. Not a scratch in the walls! Also the crank is ok and it is now milled to accept Chevy sized Callies con rods. Camshaft bearings are changed to new ones and things will go back together as soon as the rotating assembly is balanced .
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Running again after being dead for awhile! Some small water leaks to fix, but we still have hope to race next weekend. Chevy pistons and connecting rods didn't make it run any worse than it did with fifty year old stock parts .
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By yfreak57 - 12 Years Ago
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Yesterdays tinkering session... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB3izin2RsU And engine running... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GzVMmX9QsA
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Great going guys! You’ve kept downtime to a minimum and you’re back up and running. Give ‘em fits during that next test session.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Ted, we have just booked to dyno at Santala Racing for thursday evening and now we hope to see some REAL numbers . Let's hope the engine won't break at the dyno, cause we should race at saturday qualifications at the second round of the Finnish Championships. So, we are bit busy at the moment. I now have to figure out how we get that intercooler modified to fit the small dyno room .
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Now back together again and ready to race at Alastaro Circuit. Took about 12 hours with two men to put all back in a hurry. One lunch break with kids etc. Happy but really tired . 5.30 tomorrow morning we will head n the road.
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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Jyrkis run today http://bambuser.com/v/2791839 starting at about 2:36:30
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Hehe!!
Commentators had no clue, what to say.
- "That's very special, very special. We have seen everything in today... Papers says, that is '23 Ford, but it is what is...it is clear that there is turbos... special, special. There is everything to everybody in this class...etc"
Seppo called. The Rapture throwed waters after 1/8 and Jyrki saw nothing so no luck so far.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Jep, just another bad race day. Rain, waiting and another engine broke. This time it seems to be little easier than last time. New push rods in and new glues to head gaskets. Might be something else too, but let's hope not . Waters came out of the reservoir canister, so there must be a leak in head gaskets and most of the new Elgin push rods are broken too from the rocker end of the rods. Might have gone bad in the dyno also, but we don't know for sure as we had no time to open the valve covers afer the dyno and before the first run. And it run ok with those broken rods. Valve clearances were of course little too big after they broke, but... Here is the one and only run of this weekend... Sorry about a bad audio quality of GoPro in car camera. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_oMy59RQo&feature=youtu.be
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (7/1/2012)
....and most of the new Elgin push rods are broken too from the rocker end of the rods. Might have gone bad in the dyno also, but we don't know for sure as we had no time to open the valve covers afer the dyno and before the first run. And it run ok with those broken rods. Valve clearances were of course little too big after they broke, but...In regards to the pushrods, there’s an issue with many of the replacement pushrods for the Y's having too small a cup on the top of the pushrod which keeps the rocker adjuster from seating adequately in the pushrod. The cups end up splitting out as a result. Using some machinist dye or other marker in the pushrod cup while fitting the adjuster to it will help to determine if there is a sizing issue.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Starting to look like we are racing again on thursday. FHRA Nitro Nationals is the event and it's part of the European and Finnish Championships. It's a four day event. Too bad that predictions for the week is sunshine on thursday, rain on friday, cloudy on saturday and again heavy rain on final day sunday. This is the biggest Drag Race event here in Finland and this will be the first time for us as race team there. Hope that we finally can give them something to see and get some good runs with new personal record 
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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The cheering deep in the background will be us urging you on to a personal best without problems. You are due! Chuck
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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We second Chucks comment! Give us some good news and Pics!
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Here is pair of excellent shots about the last run 
It's a miracle they didn't call Jyrki back from that burnout with water spraying from radiator oerflow canister!
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By Ketterbros - 12 Years Ago
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Watching/reading from Mesquite, TX..
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By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
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So, what did you guys run?
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Frank, only run last weekend was 11.7 / 154 km/h thus Jyrki had to lift after half track as he didn't see anything after water splashed to his helmet . 60 ft was like 1.7 seconds. So, it was a National y-block record as our previous was 11.8, but really, that was not what it could have been... Well, tomorrow is the new day to try again
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By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
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Good luck! 11.70's not bad for half track.
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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July 5th Jyrkis first? run on FHRA Nitro Nationals http://bambuser.com/v/2803761 starting at about 3:35:45
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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And couple more runs http://bambuser.com/v/2804189 at times 1:17:30 , 2:29:25 and 3:42:20
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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So ~10.3 is best so far.
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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What is the speed? 208 kph? Looks like it has good speed in the traps.
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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10.343s and 208kph/129.2mph
60ft time was something like 1.6 if I remember right.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Neat video. The caliber of competition is pretty high. I can't wait your to get the bugs out and make a serious pass. With soft launch and low boost that thing is already fast! Chuck
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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We need to pool some cash together and get that over here for Columbus.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Strange Charlie, I had the exact same thought. Not sure how expensive it would be but what a neat summer tour they could do. Chuck
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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It was hotter day today(77F, hot day for us not for Texans and Down Under guys) and boost screw is still in original place, so whole day was steady 10.5 runs.
Best reaction was 0.020 and our qualified position is 9th. Not bad at all, there is nineteen serious veteran racers against us.
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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On Friday one run http://bambuser.com/v/2806090 starting at 1:05:40.
And one run http://bambuser.com/v/2806370 starting at 2:31:50.
And update for yesterday, http://bambuser.com/v/2804189 at times 21:01 1:17:30 , 2:29:25 and 3:42:20
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks for the links to the videos. Good going guys. Keep it up and you’re going to be in the eight second bracket before too long. You will be amazed at how that et drops when you start leaving harder.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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Great Work! Keep it up! Just one question? What is that guy doing standing in the middle of the lanes at the finish line with dragsters coming at him at 150mph? Hope he is paid big time because thats like playing russian roulette to me.
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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http://bambuser.com/v/2809263?more-user-filters-device=phone 5:01
Its hard to find the right run, cause video is over 9 hour long and there something wrong about normal video to me, so here is the mobile phone version.
10.050/129 and 60ft time was 1.37
This the only run on today, cause earlier rain and on first eliminator round, one Mazda hitted wall hard, just before Jykä. That was end of the day.
Tomorrow is weather is going bad, but if is not...first round is solo and target is 9.xx.
Edited:
http://www.foreca.com/Finland/Alastaro/details/20120708 Doh
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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Jyrkis only run started about 5:01:00 http://bambuser.com/v/2809263
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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On Sunday Jyrkis first elimination run http://bambuser.com/v/2811847#t=400s starting about 6:40 .
And second and last elimination run http://bambuser.com/v/2811984#t=7200s starting about 2:00:00 .
Links looks working on windows explorer just to the right moment but not on firefox every time.
And some problems with firefox also to select wanted times, can only look from start with those long recordings.
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By Teros292 - 12 Years Ago
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And here is all runs again with with time marks and works best with windows explorer.
Thursday
http://bambuser.com/v/2803761#t=12945s
http://bambuser.com/v/2804189#t=1256s
http://bambuser.com/v/2804189#t=4650s
http://bambuser.com/v/2804189#t=8965s
http://bambuser.com/v/2804189#t=13337s
Friday
http://bambuser.com/v/2806090#t=3940s
http://bambuser.com/v/2806370#t=9110s
Saturday
http://bambuser.com/v/2809263#t=18060s
Sunday
http://bambuser.com/v/2811847#t=400s
http://bambuser.com/v/2811984#t=7200s
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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What a weekend! Almost satisfied, but little disappointed as again something is wrong with the engine after last run. But it lasted nine runs well and that last one not so perfectly. 10.050 is ok as Jyrki's 0.02 reaction which gave us ninth place at the qualification. But, honestly, we wanted to go to nines and 9.99 would have pleased us this time . And it still goes straight as a bullet. Here is couple of pics again... 
Let them burn! 
Me at the background capturing a video about burn outs. 
Jyrki at the pit area with Tero and Tero's wife and kids.
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Very nice guys! That's moving right along!
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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Seppo You guys should not be to disapointed, you have gone from a street rod to race car in a short period of time. One rule always applies, when you go faster the week parts will show up. I am sure you will get there. The car looks right at home in super pro.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks , Gary, Tim and all else too. Reason of our bad performance at last run is solved. #5 intake push rod was out of place due loose adjusting nut and we actually run that 11.8 sec run with only seven cylinders . Also, some of the new push rods are split again from the rocker arm ball end. Now we just have to find a new and proper set as Ted has told. Two weeks to go for the next race and that will be 1/8 mile airfield track. So, there we can only improve our 60 ft times if the traction is good. Good practice, though... .
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By Ketterbros - 12 Years Ago
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Still watching, good luck..... Mesquite, TX
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By John Mummert - 12 Years Ago
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Seppo, looks like you're getting really close to your target!
Regarding the pushrods: I don't know what your combo is exactly but there is a compatibility problem with aftermarket adjusting screws and factory or stock replacement pushrods. Although the Ford adjusters appear to have a 3/8" ball on the end it is really slightly undersize, about .365". Most of the aftermarket rockers will have a true 3/8" diameter ball but the cup end of the the replacement rockers is likely to Ford specs meaning the ball won't hit at the very bottom of the cup, but can ride around the sides of the cup. This will cause the cups to break or gall if the oil is wiped off by the interference.
Don't know if this helps.
Good luck next time out. 9.XX!
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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You could lap them together if what john is saying is correct, Beleive it or not I lapped a set sitting in the water on the beach with fine beach sand and an Ice cold beverage. you can't get a better environment for working on an engine than that. Just keep the rods, rockers and lifters as a matched set when installing.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Billy, lakes here are still freezing cold after winter and I really don't want my balls get shrunk .. Slapping them (the push rods) was one thought, but we are now searching the matching set. But... time is slowly running out... And, I really like your idea of cold beverage! Right now I'm enjoying some fine Finnish Beer as I got our towing car fixed today. Believe or not, but when we started our journey to alastaro track, my van broke the timing belt and all eight push rods bent to S-shape as a result of piston slap! Well, I changed the belt and gave a little hammer to push rods to straighten them . And I drove back home with my van today . Works fine, my Germany made Ford Transit 2.5 liter diesel van!
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Short coverage of the new Finnish National Y-block record run . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pouJoM1cfo&feature=youtu.be
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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What is it with you and push rods? Race car AND tow car, thats pretty bad! Chuck
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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What is the European record?
Is there anybody in history who has been runned under the ten in the old world?
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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This is our latest run at Finnish Ford Nationals last Saturday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=694xs9V-pNc&feature=relmfu 10.020 and yet another two push rods bent and down to lifter valley . Today we got 8" A1 torque converter and it is now installed for the next weekend and 60 ft trials. Our best 60 feet is that 1.37 so far.
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By landspeedy - 12 Years Ago
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Looks great!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the on board camera view of the tach. Nothing like lots of R's from a wild Y- Block!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keith Cornell
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Great going guys. You’re knocking on the nine second door. Once you get that pushrod issue squared away, you get to concentrate on those other things that will drop those et’s.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Jep, though we changed the torque converter yesterday evening to A1 8 inch converter with approximimate stall being somewhere around 5000-5400 rpm. Seller didn't exactly know the specs, but it has been behind a big block chevy at the late 80's and been at the storage since early 90'. And at the next race we can continue to better our 60 ft times as it will be airfield track and only 1/8 mile race. Ted, we changed the balls of the Harland Sharps to older stock ones as the old ones are narrower at the ball and they fit better to our now Elgin push rods. The thread is the same and we used those new lock nuts. I sure hope that solves the problem. Have you ever had any problems with loose adjusting nuts? Heat transition of aluminum rockers and steel ball head screws?
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By yfreak57 - 12 Years Ago
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landspeedy (7/16/2012)
Looks great!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like lots of R's from a wild Y- Block!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Keith! Keep your bones rollin', too!!!
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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FHRA Summer Nationals at Kalajoki's Air Field 1/8 mile
There was one slightly better sixty foot time, but the best first day's result was...
60' 1.322 sec
1/8 mile 6.044 sec / 178 /111mph
...and every pushrods are still in right place.
It gets faster in day after day. A higher stall converter was a good choice. Next thing is probably that the Rev limiter must be nearer 7k than 6k at 1/4 mile.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Sounds like you are on the right path. Creeping up on 9's and beyond? What did you do different on the push rods or did the new set fit properly? It will be a real blast once you get it ironed out. Congratulations! Chuck
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Like Brother Seppo said couple posts ago. - "Old balls are better than the younger ones."
"Ted, we changed the balls of the Harland Sharps to older stock ones as the old ones are narrower at the ball and they fit better to our now Elgin push rods. The thread is the same and we used those new lock nuts. I sure hope that solves the problem."
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By unibodyboy - 12 Years Ago
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I've also been experiencing ball problems! Got everything back together with no pushrod issues and quite a bit of thrashing this afternoon.
What's next for you guys?
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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We lost at the first round of the eliminator and the time was really bad 6.558. Jyrki messed out something at the line and didn't get the boost to desired level. But, that's racing . Next race will be more familiar Motopark Raceway 1/4 mile race in August. 
I'll do a short video of this weekend after good 6 hour sleep and a working day tomorrow...
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Here is one short coverage of one run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvszaSurjMA&feature=youtu.be More later...
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Slow motion from Kalajoki Summer Nationals. Slow motion is good when observing how the chassis works. There is a small wheel spin in one run and you really can't see that in full speed catch  .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWBrNEflJpI&feature=youtu.be
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Tomorrow we will head on to Motopark Raceway to try to break our records . We now have a stage limiter working and it's set to 4000 rpm to get more accurate starts all day. Also, we put the rev limiter to 7000 rpm to get more trap speed. We'll see how that works... And if those won't help, we still have that turbo boost knob to turn it to open position . Also wwe now have our laptop connected to Megasquirt to collect all possible information about the runs.  
Also we now have the so called convenience package aka seat upholstery onboard . Last time we were racing, the tech insisted that we should have the seat covered at the next race, so we now have. 
And also set of Autolite AR32 spark plugs are among other service stuff. Ready to race!
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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The 10 second barrier is broken!!!
9.9** s / 131 mph at the first round.
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By Grizzly - 12 Years Ago
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LordMrFord (8/18/2012)
The 10 second barrier is broken!!!
9.9** s / 131 mph at the first round.Well done Warren
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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9.960 / 219 km/h at the first run and then in the second our new torque converter broke and rest of the runs were quite hard to do. Could not use the trans brake cause converter locked at 2000 rpm totally and starts were bad. But, we opened the turbo screw about 1/8 turn and trap speeds were better now thus starts were so bad . Two weeks to get the converter fixed to final round of the series... 
Dirty Old Man going against young lady driver... She won .
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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So it was the torque convertor not a turbo problem. Which convertor were you using? Hopefully they will stand behing their product after such a small amount of runs. Faster and Faster we go! I can't help but think how fast you will go when all problems are fixed and the car is dialed in. Those dragster better watch out because there's an altered Y-Block closing in on them. Chuck
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Our new 8" is someones used . It was last time used back in early 90's. Brand is unknown but it worked very well before it locked up. We just have to get it fixed. Here is some photos about this weekend. 
We lost to that '34 and then it was time to go home... See that 11.80 dial in on the body. Jyrki drove 11.83 at the first round and this was 11.68 and he broke. That 11.80 was due that broken torque converter which didn't allow us to race normally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb24E4BdhXA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elm73ATrPS0&list=UUxZ94DRcBfpz0DstGIV1_QA&index=1&feature=plcp
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Seems to be that BB Chevy parts can't handle TT-Y-Block power . Converter sprag broke this time... It will be fixed and we will race again 1.9. - 2.9. 2012.
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By yfreak57 - 12 Years Ago
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With repaired torque converter we made new European Y-Block record today!!! 9.483s / 136mph, 60 foot 1.307s !!!! Just one pass and then day rained away. Tomorrow is new day and we are ready to make new records!!!
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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Most of the regulars are at Columbus, Racing, this weekend, so let me say OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys have been making progress everytime those chevy parts don't let you down. Good luck tomorrow and maybe the fresh air will allow an even quicker time. How much boost? Have you thought about some sort of scoop to direct air to the turbo inlets?
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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This is what happened today... And Jyrki lost that one due huge breakout! Our dial was too gentle . And we lost propably right head gasket due 1.5 bar / 21 psi of boost ... So, 8.723 with iron heads and only 292 cid +0.030 overbore. Videos will come later as usual.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Here it comes... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=863lPyofU1Q and same as a slow motion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMw1joPPqU&list=UUxZ94DRcBfpz0DstGIV1_QA&index=1&feature=plcp
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By 57FordPU - 12 Years Ago
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My, My, My.............Now that is fast. Great job guys.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Pics... Burn Outs are getting better and better too 
7 psi at the rear wheels gets them twisted . Best 60 ft was 1.228 seconds. Not bad?
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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Awesome job!! 8.728 @ ~150 mph. Good for you guys, just starting to get dialed in!!
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By JPotter57 - 12 Years Ago
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8.72 and close to 145-150, too cool. That equates to around 500-550 hp at the wheels...nice. And from a <300 inch powerplant, amazing! Great work guys.
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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Really outstanding progress, if you look at the RT you will see that there is you reason for the loss. You guys should be very happy with that run, wheels up and all.
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By Missouri Mike - 12 Years Ago
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WOW!!!!!!!! Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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WOW! Very cool guys! bla bla bla
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Jep, I did a quick autopsy again and cylinder #3 was full of water and a head gasket was done . 
And someone had changed engine oils to Bailey's irish Cream liquor . 
Our fans at the garage were all little disappointed about our progress... 
Five runs during the weekend: 9.483 / 219.35 km/h, 9.571 / 217.80 km/h, 9.665 / 216.21 km/h, 9.268 / 238.65 km/h and then that 8.723 / 241.84 km/h. 0.757 to WR .
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Can't you guys get a solid copper gasket?
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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We do have one set of copper gaskets, but we opted to test what Fel-Pros really can stand . Now we know. For the next season there will be proper O-rings and boost will be added up to 2.5 bar... Maybe?
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (9/3/2012)
We do have one set of copper gaskets, but we opted to test what Fel-Pros really can stand . Now we know. For the next season there will be proper O-rings and boost will be added up to 2.5 bar... Maybe?
Next we test how much non-posted heads can take pressure?
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Next we test how much non-posted heads can take pressure? That is something I'm interested to know.
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By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
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Not much.....ask Hoosier.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (9/2/2012)
This is what happened today...
And Jyrki lost that one due huge breakout! Our dial was too gentle . And we lost propably right head gasket due 1.5 bar / 21 psi of boost ... So, 8.723 with iron heads and only 292 cid +0.030 overbore. Videos will come later as usual. Good job guys. You’re matching the 60’ times I had at Columbus but you’re obviously making more horsepower based on the mph numbers and that quicker et. Sounds like you’ve still got more left in it so keep at it.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Ted, now we know how fast and hard it is to go under 9's and really have to say that without boost, we wouldn't have done it. Your times are now even more impressive than before! What issues did you have with your suspension? Our only problem was that hopping at the start but other than that, it went straight as a train. We now have to wait until next year to go back to track, but that is good time to make minor modifications and re-thinking. And sure, if we can get a better launch the time will go down again and we also have to find more top end speed. Maybe gearing or just more rpm at the end. Our limiter was set to 7000 rpm this time.
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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Head Do you think you have too much weight forward and that is causing the chassis to unload during launch? Most race cars like yours have very little weight forward of the engine. great job and you still have some left.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Well, as we are total rookies in drag racing and the car and the driver has lot less than 50 runs done, it's a bit hard to say. Weight at the front is not an issue, if we think about intercooler and the pipes. They don't weight a lot. Y-block itself with iron heads is heavy and two turbos and wastegates do add weight comparing to Ted's car. More of an issue, I think, is the rpm at the line and tyre pressures. And, with a solid mount rear end, what can you do? Well, now that that was said, Mark Williams Drawings state that floater rear end is suggested for blown cars... Wonder why??? And, if we get better 60 ft times, there will come wheelies and that adds difficulties. But hey, that's Drag Racing. It's not meant to be easy, right? Hmmm... maybe during the winter we will find that thing that helps us to better our time over that missing 0.757 seconds to beat that old World Record .
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By glrbird - 12 Years Ago
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I just offer thing that I have encountered over the years, on my brothers altered it had solid rear and coilovers on the front, too much travel made it very unpredictable on launches. We limited the travel to 2 inches on the front shocks and cured the problem, Your car is solid at both ends and that may be why the chassis is unloading when it launches,no traves to help plant the tire. Maybe you could find a parking lot or someplace to try different things to "stop the hop" . If you burnouts are better, then the tire pressure could be higher at launch and needs to be droped to 5 or 6 pounds cold. Long winter to think about things. You guys will be fine I am sure.
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By RB - 12 Years Ago
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Gary congrats on posting at exactly 3:12 That has to be a good omen.
On the Wheel hop issue I run a solid rear suspension Altered with a 31x10.5Wx15 tire.. My car only ran in the 10 sec range, but I was plauged by wheel hop too.. I found out my tire is not right for an altered chassis, It has too stiff of a sidewall. However by dropping the pressure down to 6-7 lb it cured the problem. Solid suspension cars need tires with flexible sidewalls
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (9/6/2012)
Ted, now we know how fast and hard it is to go under 9's and really have to say that without boost, we wouldn't have done it. Your times are now even more impressive than before! What issues did you have with your suspension? Our only problem was that hopping at the start but other than that, it went straight as a train. We now have to wait until next year to go back to track, but that is good time to make minor modifications and re-thinking. And sure, if we can get a better launch the time will go down again and we also have to find more top end speed. Maybe gearing or just more rpm at the end. Our limiter was set to 7000 rpm this time.I had two runs where the car took hard turns immediately at the launch. One was a hard left and the other was a hard right. While the track is suspect on the hard left as the starting line was being worked on just prior to me doing the burnout, the hard right really took me by surprise. I'll add that track prep this year was lacking and the threat of rain and rain delays didn't help either. The hard right occurred during eliminations while I was running against Harry Hutton and because it was an elimination run, I straightened out the car and attempted to chase him down. That might have worked with a less experienced driver but not with Harry. I did still manage to run 144+mph on that run but the et suffered on that run as it slowed to a 9.44.But back to the suspension; I’m suspecting I’m hitting the wheelie bars too hard and that’s helping to unload the rear tires. For this event, I had just changed the rear tires as I had been running 11X34’s and went with 14½X32’s. That was to address some wheel spin issues I was having when using the transbrake. Was running 7 psi in the 11’s tires and 6½ psi seems to be the ticket for the 14½” tires. At this point, I’m looking at changing the angle on the top bars on the four link to help soften the launch.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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I put a video about all our runs at Alastaro Finals to youtube. Enjoy . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G6nZAG8Tgk&feature=youtu.be
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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I'm sure you noticed but the turbo on the right bank was showing a little smoke each run. The gasket must have already started to fail. You really have the competition running scared! When long time racers red light its because they are not sure if they can catch you. Keep them flying! Chuck
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Chuck, the smoke at the runs (except the last one) comes from the turbo's seal between the body and the turbine chamber. That occurred a couple of races ago and I managed to stop that leak by turning and aligning the chamber again for the previous race at Motopark. There it didn't smoke but it started again. Now both turbos are sent to service and we'll find out was my quess right.
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Happy New Drag Year to everyone! Here is the last video capture for this year . Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r_GFNI0I0o&list=UUxZ94DRcBfpz0DstGIV1_QA&index=1 Wish we all can do new records next year .
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Absolutely beautiful! You are going to need a set of wheelie bars when you get to hard launchs. Saw that front end pick up. I'm always amazed at the number of great, and professional looking, cars you have over there. Have a great new years! Chuck
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By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
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Chuck, you haven't seen them all yet . Maybe I have to put together short clip about Pro Mod and Outlaw burn outs? Check this list and you se that top five Top Fuel drivers in European series come from Finland! http://www.speedgroup.eu/FIA%20POINTS%202012%20RD%206.pdf Finnish people are good in all sports where helmet is required . Drag Race, Rallying, Formula 1 and other racing series, Enduro and Ice Hockey. We used to be good at Ski Jumping too, but that seems to be history .
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (12/31/2012)
Finnish people are good in all sports where helmet is required . Drag Race, Rallying, Formula 1 and other racing series, Enduro and Ice Hockey. We used to be good at Ski Jumping too, but that seems to be history .
...American Football and Nascar records are just behind the corner. ...or not.
And heavy Y-Block wont need the wheelie bars yet. (I hope I'm wrong)
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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I'll let Ted chime in on that one. He has been using them for a while. If you really want to hammer it on launch I think you will need them. I'm sure by now your competition has taken notice of the little roadster that could. Chuck
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By Hollow Head - 11 Years Ago
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Ok, this one is done by official TV crew about our season 2012. Not bad at all . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEIeutUSfXU
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By LordMrFord - 11 Years Ago
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MoonShadow (12/31/2012)
I'll let Ted chime in on that one. He has been using them for a while. If you really want to hammer it on launch I think you will need them. I'm sure by now your competition has taken notice of the little roadster that could. Chuck
60 feet was 1.228 in that record run and tires was just in the traction barrier. It's hard to get better. So launch was good, but more power and speed is needed to outside that 60', but who knows what that extra power brings with. Maybe those badass FED wheelies what we saw on pre-computer age, I hope.
That video is awesome.
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By mctim64 - 11 Years Ago
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Very cool Video!
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By lyonroad - 11 Years Ago
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Holy "Jyrki Lumme" is that nice!!
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By Hollow Head - 11 Years Ago
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Little update to our engine. We were at the road trip to Fagersta in Sweden with four cylinder heads. There SwedeKarla did an excellent job doing the O-ring grooves to our heads and now we can add some boost to our engine without blowing gaskets. Here is some pics about the trip. First one is where Håkan is torquing our head to his cnc machine. Second is where head surface is been straightened before making grooves. Third is where drill bit is making grooves to head. Fourth is where Håkans friend Ari, Håkan himself and Jyrki are checking the final product and then there is of course picture of Jyrki and Håkan having beer after job well done !
    
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By MoonShadow - 11 Years Ago
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Darn, that head is so pretty you almost hate to cover it up. Those CNC machines do a nice job. Chuck
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By The Master Cylinder - 11 Years Ago
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NICE!! Always better to have the BEER after the job is done...
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By Ted - 11 Years Ago
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Thanks for sharing the pics. How deep are the grooves and what size wire do you plan on using?
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By LordMrFord - 11 Years Ago
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Hollow Head (4/8/2013)
Quite small beers out there in Sweden.
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By Hollow Head - 11 Years Ago
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Ted, the grooves are 1 mm wide and 0.75 mm deep and we use 0.041" wire so it is about 0.3mm above surface and we use 1mm thick copper gaskets.
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By Y block Billy - 11 Years Ago
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Are you trying to fool people that you are running a windsor or FE, those heads are the wrong color for a Y! HA HA great Job!
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By Hollow Head - 11 Years Ago
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Corporate Blue  .
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