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By sd56effie - 12 Years Ago
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Hi Gents, Yesterday I was lowering my motor into place in my 56 f-100 and found that with my MII install the oil pan hit the rack and the cross-member. My solution to the problem was to modify my oil pan. I cut about 5/8" from the front of the pan that tapered to about an inch. Does any see any problems with the new clearance from the shallow portion of the pan and the crank? will there be any unwanted whipping of the oil? I plan to add about a 1" band to the rear of the pan to make up for lost volume. I will also add a small baffle to help keep oil near the pick up. Would it be ok to leave the pick up where it is or does it need to be right at the bottom of the pan? thanks for your help
Dustin
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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The crankshaft and rods do protrude beyond the pan rail. Make sure it is less than 5/8", probably at least about 1/16" clearance. If you make the pan deep enough to recoupe the lost volume, it should be fine. The pick up does not have to be deeper but it will be best if you can extend it sufficiently for the new depth.
The way that I'm interpreting your modification, I don't think a baffle will be necessary.
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By sd56effie - 12 Years Ago
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charlie, thanks for the input! i do have clearance for the crank. so just so i understand it correctly, The clearance from the crank to the depth of the shallowest part of the pan really doesn't matter as long as there is enough room that nothing hits right? any fancy ideas on how to drop the pick up? this is my first build so any pointers are great.
Dustin
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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I haven't yet had to modify an oil pan in such a way yet so I don't really know. I would probably try to weld an extension into the stock pickup. There have to be universal aftermarket pickup options as well.
Ah, here you go.
https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=2000
You can try summit, too. Their site seems to be down now.
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By Doug T - 12 Years Ago
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If it were mine to do I would lower the sump behind the rack to make up the volume that you removed and maybe even add a little more. This is a good mod because those truck pans let the oil slosh to the front of the engine away from the pickup on hard stops. Definately add the same amount to the pickup tube so that it gets all the oil in the pan in case you develop a leak. You might also figure out how to locate a dip stick so that it enters the sump. The mod you have made will probably mean that you wont see any oil on the dip stick in the stock locations on the block and timing chain cover. BTW where did you get the MII crossmember, Heigt or ?
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By 57FordPU - 12 Years Ago
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Just wanted to compliment you on your attention to detail as I noticed you bolted the pan to a flat surface to avoid warping it during welding.
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By sd56effie - 12 Years Ago
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thanks for the input guys! my cross member is a no limit wide rise. here is a pic of when i installed it.
Yeah I bought some cheap engine dolley online for i think 30 bucks but it wouldnt work, so i hacked up the frame to mate the oil pan to while i do my surgery. i ended up using the castors and welding up some angle iron to make my engine dolly. My plan is to deepen the rear sump and sink the pick up near the bottom. once its all welded up i was going to pour some paint thinner in to check for leaks and paint the outside and call it good. I will keep you posted on how it turns out. Again thanks for the comments!
Dustin
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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We used to bolt the pan to a bare block to hold them straight. I've seen some that lookes like ruffels. Take your dipstick to a rod shop and compare to the ones they have. I'm using a chrome Mopar dipstick in mine and its an inch or so longer. Some of them are longer than that. Once you find one that fits put the correct amount of oil in the pan, check it and mark the new dipstick. Easy peezy! Chuck
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By 57FordPU - 12 Years Ago
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Chuck, good idea about bolting to a bare block. Dustin, here is an oil pan given to me by "569104" (thanks Greg). Just some ideas that you might consider. 
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By sd56effie - 12 Years Ago
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charlie i like what you have done, but if i can i would like to just modify the pickup tube. i started a new thread on it . any ideas?
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By sd56effie - 11 Years Ago
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Justin here are a few pics, if i find the rest of the pics i will post them
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By Keebler - 11 Years Ago
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Looks real good. I am looking for a truck pan for my install now. They seem to be a little harder to find than I thought. If you find any pictures of the motor in the truck let me know. Thanks for the help.
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By slick56 - 11 Years Ago
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Earlier this year I extended the pan on a bu**k v6. I made a cover out of 1/4" Perspex and tapped it for
an airline fitting. Pumped 10psi in it and put it in a tub of water to see if it leaked (it did...).
Filled the hole in the weld and did it again, worked a treat.
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By sd56effie - 11 Years Ago
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Hard to tell from the pics but there is about 1 1/8 clearance from the cross member. dont forget to share your pics as you move forward.
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By charliemccraney - 11 Years Ago
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Does the pickup still fit?
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By sd56effie - 11 Years Ago
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had to lengthen the pickup tube. I heated and bent a lenght of tube and welded it in. I dont remember the length of tube I added but the pickup now sits just below the bottom of the pan.
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By Slick111 - 11 Years Ago
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Glad I found this site have the same problem now with a Jag IRS rack on my 60 F-100 looks like I will be modifying my pan as well.
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