By Jim - 12 Years Ago
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Dyno pull to 429 hp
Needless to say, Dr. Eaton ROCKS!!!!!
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By Oldmics - 12 Years Ago
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SWEET Sounds great at idle - what camshaft ? Oldmics
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By YRAG32 - 12 Years Ago
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Fantastic!!!!!!
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By Genuinerod - 12 Years Ago
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Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Love it!
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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And here’s just a tad bit more info on Jim’s 318” Y. We were rewarded with peak values of 429 horsepower and 388 ft/lbs torque and it didn’t take a whole lot to get there. The engine is a 292 block bored +060 (3.810” bore) and a 292 crankshaft offset ground to 3.480” stroke. The heads are unmodified Mummert aluminum units while the intake is a stock out of the box Blue Thunder. The carburetor for the 429HP run was a 750 vacuum secondary Holley. The static compression ratio is right at 10.0:1 while the camshaft is a custom Isky grind that has 270° advertised, 242° at 0.050”, and is ground on 107° lobe centers. The camshaft itself is installed at 2½° advance. Here’s another duplicate YouTube link for the dyno pull. Jim’s 318Y on the dyno I’ll add that even at 318 cubic inches, the 750 carb that was being used is sized just about right as the 625 cfm carb that was also tested was showing a vacuum increase in the upper rpm band. That by itself is a very good indicator that that particular carb was undersized while the horsepower increase with the larger carb was another indicator. There will be a full article with more details about this engine in a forthcoming issue of the Y-Block Magazine.
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By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
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Does this mean Jimmy's gonna lay the camera down Labor Day and Show us some Texas Horses?
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By iowa fords - 12 Years Ago
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I have a question about price to build an engine like that, can you give me a ball park figure?
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By Jim - 12 Years Ago
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Frank, both Ted and Wayne (the guy that first got me interested in the Y-Block engine) are making veiled threats if I don't take it to Columbus.
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By Jim - 12 Years Ago
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Tom, the cost to build up a hot "Y" varies a lot with what components are put into the engine. I went the "Full Monty" so to speak which made it more expensive. I am sure that if Ted had gotten a picture of my face after the 429 hp pull, it would plainly show that it was all worth it!
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Should I be jealous? Sounds like those Mummert heads really do the job. Chuck
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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Chuck, Yours aint lagging far behind @ 400, I have your dyno sheets if you ever make it up here along with videos etc. Jim, I do qualify to be jealous! Great job!
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Some day Bill, some day. I guess the aluminum heads are probably the main difference. Chuck
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By Don Woodruff - 12 Years Ago
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Great Job, looks like 400 horsepower Y blocks will become more common
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By RB - 12 Years Ago
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Wow that's impressive on 318 cubes, out of the box heads and intake! So where did you hide the nitrous bottle lol
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Good job Ted! I'm sure Jim will be driving with a big smile on his face soon.
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By slumlord444 - 12 Years Ago
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What RPM did it hit 429 HP? Cam sure does not sound all that radical. Goes to show it does not take radical cam to make horsepower. IF and when Mummert ships my heads I think I will be happy with the results. Heads are a big part of the secret. Back in the day the stock ECK-G heads made a world of difference on a 292.
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By Jim - 12 Years Ago
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429 was at 6400
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By slumlord444 - 12 Years Ago
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Impressive. I am planing to keep mine somewhere around 6200 because of the cast pistons. I do not expect to get 400 horses out of it but hope for 350 to 375. More would be good.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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Ted, Offset grinding the crank, what did you use for journal sizes and did you use custom rods? Lengths?
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By Glen Henderson - 12 Years Ago
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Sounds good Jim! Can't wait to read the build artical.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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iowa fords (2/2/2012) I have a question about price to build an engine like that, can you give me a ball park figure? That’s a loaded question as much of the pricing simply depends upon what is already on hand that can be reused. If building an engine from scratch, then it’s obviously going to be more expensive. Jim already had a core block and crankshaft, MSD distributor, Blue Thunder aluminum intake, aluminum timing and valley covers, and some of the other miscellaneous engine parts including a carburetor and carb spacer. Most of these parts came off of the +125 over 312 that was in the car up until recently. The pistons are custom made to take advantage of the metric ring design while the connecting rods are aftermarket H-Beams modified to work with the offset ground crankshaft. And Jim’s engine also has one of the very pricey ATI dampers obtained before Innovators West came on board as a Y-Block damper provider. The big ticket items are the aluminum heads, custom piston set, connecting rods, and roller tipped rocker arms with shafts and quality pushrods and these alone account for over $4000 out of the budget. Then add in the rings, camshaft, lifters, bearings, gaskets, offset grinding the crankshaft, oil pump, premium grade bolts, new ignition wires, spark plugs, oil & filter, machine work, balancing, assembly labor, and dyno time, it starts adding up. Sounds pricey until you actually look through the list and realize it’s not that far out of line with any performance buildup that’s performed on any other family of engines.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (2/3/2012) Ted, Offset grinding the crank, what did you use for journal sizes and did you use custom rods? Lengths?Billy. Rod journal sizes are 2.000” and the connecting rods are Eagle H-Beams (6.250” long) that have had their big end widths narrowed to work with the narrower Y block journals. With the pistons being custom ordered, the 0.927" diameter wrist pins are simply placed in the pistons so that the block decks can be kept optimally high. Changing the rod lengths simply means changing the wrist pin location (compression height) to compensate.
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By Jim - 12 Years Ago
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Ted built my dream engine, and I am glad that it was paid for while I was still making decent money! While this will make for a very quick ride, there are other Y-Blocks in process that will be more powerful. Who would have thought that we would be seeing 7 second quarter mile times from a Y? And as I recall, there are two in the 8 second club, both from central Texas (Randy Gummelt & Ted Eaton).
If you have watched the video and listened to that motor run, let me tell you that it ran equally as smoothly on the other pulls. While I seriously doubt that the motor will ever see 6400 rpm in the car, it is nice to know that it can do it and not try to self destruct.
I am truly lucky to live so close to "Doc" Eaton!
Thanks again Ted!
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By John Mummert - 12 Years Ago
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Congratulations Jim! That should be a fun ride. 400hp sounds like enough street power to me.
It sure is nice to have a Y-Block engine builder with a Dyno next to his house to wring out all of our ideas and make them come to life. Another great job Ted.
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By Ketterbros - 12 Years Ago
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Congrats Jim, not a more deserving Y-Blocker, all the work you expend here and at the meets.. Ted always re-affirms my belief in him since the day at Texas Ford Shootout, Texas Motorplex campaining the TBolt with the 406, introducing me to this site and the Birdpalooza..
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