By trampld - 13 Years Ago
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Ok - new to the forum (and y-blocks in general) but have always been a Ford guy. Had the opportunity to help out a neighbor go through her garage full of stuff that her late husband 'collected' - he retired from Holley and passed away a few years ago. The garage looks like something from the show Hoarders but everything is loosely related to automotive. Here is what I found - a Y-Block tripower manifold with 3 Holley 2v carbs and linkage. And while many of the parts in the garage had tags to indicate what they were, this one has nothing on it. Heck - it took me a while to figure out it was a Y-Block as I am not familiar with them and did not recognize the intake port configuration at all. I have done a little research but have not found enough examples to know if this was from the factory (although that would surprise me a lot) or if it was a dealer add on, or something done at home. I have not seen anything about this configuration being done with Holleys. Additionally, I can find no markings on the intake, at least not without pulling the carbs off. And while I am sure, someone is going to ask for #'s off the carbs - I do not have them at the moment - the paper I wrote them on is at home. Also - the linkage moves freely... So what can you guys tell me about this? What do you think it is worth? And, anyone interested?
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By yblock32deuce - 13 Years Ago
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certainly not the usual 3 deuce setup in that they are much later carbs than the conventional 50=-57 2 barrel. as to value, depends on the make of manifold, and whats its worth to be person who likes it. definitely a neat piece.
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By trampld - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks! Here is one more pic of the manifold from underneath - not sure this will help to ID the manifold - I will probably have to remove the carbs in order to find some kind of marking on it.
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By Oldmics - 13 Years Ago
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Could be a regular old 3 duece manifold with adaptor plates to allow for the newer Holly carbs. Carbs would have to be removed to find out what it really is. Any Holly paperwork in that garage find? Oldmics
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By NoShortcuts - 13 Years Ago
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Like Oldmics, I THINK some type of adapter has been used to adapt the four bolt Holley carbs to a manifold with three bolt carb. mounts.
Interesting the way the carb tops have been cut to allow the three to fit together. I wonder what was used for an air cleaner.
In your second picture, I'm intrigued by what appear to be vacuum chambers on the front and rear carburetors.
It doesn't look like adjusting the idle mixture screws is easily accomplished.
I'll be interested to learn what this set-up is made-up of! Holley numbers should be located on the front of each air horns near the level of the choke plate shafts. -The choke plate assemblies have been removed on the front and rear carbs, but the shaft holes are still there and open.
The manifold does NOT look like the Edelbrock 573 I'm comparing it to...
Regards,
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By trampld - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks guys I did not find any old Holley Documentation - but there are a LOT of 1V and 2V holley carburetors - including a handful of progressive 2Vs. As for the additional details on this tripower set up, I will do some more digging on numbers and such and let you all know what I find out.
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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Very interesting setup. I agree that there must be adaptors for the carbs. I seem to remember an adaptor similar to this one for 2 barrel Holley 4 bolt to Holley 3 bolt.
This one is for Holley 4 bolt the Rochester 2 barrel.
The "lugs" for the four center manifold hold downs are squared off like a Edelbrock 553.
NoShortcuts (10/19/2011)It doesn't look like adjusting the idle mixture screws is easily accomplished.
The idle mixture screws on Holley carbs are on the sides so mixture adjustment shouldn't be a problem there. It appears that the end carbs don't have the idle screws installed so you would only have to adjust the center.
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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The Master Cylinder (10/19/2011)
Very interesting setup. I agree that there must be adaptors for the carbs. The "lugs" for the four center manifold hold downs are squared off like a Edelbrock 553. NoShortcuts (10/19/2011)It doesn't look like adjusting the idle mixture screws is easily accomplished. The idle mixture screws on Holley carbs are on the sides so mixture adjustment shouldn't be a problem there. It appears that the end carbs don't have the idle screws installed so you would only have to adjust the center. Some OEM holleys of this type 320 cfm were fitted to international trucks and others and had mixture screws in front of main body. It looks very much like an edelbrock intake! The rear carb certainly overhangs the back of manifold.
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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Notice also the outer carbs don't have accelerator pumps and the chokes have been removed. Obviously modded for the 3 deuce setup. Also looks like the outer carbs are vacuum operated/modulated? So there would not need the idle circuits.
Remember the guy worked for Holley so he had excess to what he needed to make it right.
That's just my 1¢ worth...
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By Talkwrench - 13 Years Ago
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Looks like it should be sitting on a MoPar..
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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Neat setup. It uses the early Holley model 2300 2V carbs before the fuel levels went to being externally adjustable. That puts the carbs in the late Fifties era. More detail would be needed at the base of the carbs but I suspect there’s some kind of adapters being used on a three bolt intake. I’d be interested in testing the setup on the dyno mule just to compare the results against the other 3X2 setups that have been tested. If the intake is not for sale, then could the setup be loaned out just long enough to do a dyno test? As the setup has been sitting awhile, the carbs would likely have to be disassembled and freshened up but that can be done on my end prior to testing. Knowing that the Stromberg carbs are undersized when used with the better 3X2 intakes, then the newer Holleys regardless of the adapters are expected to see a horsepower improvement.
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By yalincoln - 13 Years Ago
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hey ted, it looks like a 56 factory 2x4 intake in the front. they cam out with the late holley 3x2 intake for 58 merc. 430's. mabey they were looking at late tri-power for the y-block for street use. mabey someone at holley might have information on this setup, since he worked there? has anyone ever talked to the guy that made the aluminum intakes for ford back in the day? you'ed think there would be some people that worked for ford that would help us find out what was in the works for 57-58 y-blocks. i can't believe it's still a threat to national security!!!
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By glrbird - 13 Years Ago
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I would thing it more of an age issue, If you were a 40 year old ford employee in 1956 you would be 95 years old this year. Lots of information is gone for this reason.
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By PF Arcand - 13 Years Ago
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First, welcome to the site.. I thought 2300 series carbs were introduced by Ford in 1957? Anyway, it looks like there were clearance issues at the rear.. Distributor clearance? .. If there is other 50s-60s Ford related stuff in that garage, best post it here, there's likely to be someone interested !
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