By snowcone - 13 Years Ago
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Hi Guys
I'm a new poster from Australia (just down the road from Aussie Bill)
After dreaming for many years I recently picked up a 58 Customline which has been about 60% restored.
It came with bucket loads of spares so I am presently rebuilding one of the 3 272's that came with it.
I look forward to chatting with you guys and picking your brains as the rebuild progresses.
Cheers
Gary
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Hi Gary
Good to see you joined up.
Great bunch of guys here.
Regards
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Forgot to mention Bill is on this site as aussiebill
Regards
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By Rono - 13 Years Ago
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Hi Gary; Welcome to the site! Enjoy your Customline and have some fun Regards, Rono
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By mctim64 - 13 Years Ago
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Welcome from Kalifornia!
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By Moz - 13 Years Ago
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Tim you spelt kalifornia wrong just as well i checked your card or this years christmas card could have ende up anywhere haha Hi Gary welcome to the site im in geelong ive got a 58 star customline & 59 star mainline
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By snowcone - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.
I can't wait until I get this engine and tranny back together so I can put the front end back on and have a complete car
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By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
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Just take your time. We'll be waiting for it. Welcome to the sites also from up here North.
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By Grizzly - 13 Years Ago
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G'day Garry, There's a wealth of knowledghe here and a few of us are from Australia. Cheers Warren
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By 46yblock - 13 Years Ago
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Congratulations on your new project! Does a '58 Customline Australia look like a US model? A '58 Ford station wagon was assigned by my dad to be my first driver.
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By snowcone - 13 Years Ago
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A few guys here might correct me if I am wrong but I beleive we were about 2 years behind the US with the models.
The majority of parts for our cars came out of Canada.
The 58 and 59 (last model made) here were called the Star model which the USA never got.
The Star grill was "borrowed" from another Canadian model which I think was the Meteor, but I could be wrong.
In any case I have a Star model which is exactly the model I was after
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By Grizzly - 13 Years Ago
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Snowcone, I think you're right on most of what you have written. We used (Imported) Canadian cars. 56 was the last model that was the same as the American models. 57-59 was a sort of change over period where Ford Australia was being set up to build locally produced Falcons. From what I understand 57 and later were 56 bodies the 57 the same as 56. Our 58-59 were as you pointed out used Canadian Meteors front clip. There are some differences our 56-57 uses a US style 55 dash. I'm not sure of the front suspension but we followed suit and 57-59 got 9" rears like US and Canada. Mainlines in Australia are Utes and are a Australia only body. Ford Australia was making Utes from the 30's. In 57 the Yanks got a ute called a Ranchero based on their body styling. Cheers Warren
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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snowcone (7/27/2011) A few guys here might correct me if I am wrong but I beleive we were about 2 years behind the US with the models. The majority of parts for our cars came out of Canada. The 58 and 59 (last model made) here were called the Star model which the USA never got. The Star grill was "borrowed" from another Canadian model which I think was the Meteor, but I could be wrong.
In any case I have a Star model which is exactly the model I was afterGenerally were copied from 55 and 56 meteors, star in grill was vastly downsized. yyy
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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aussiebill (7/27/2011)
snowcone (7/27/2011) A few guys here might correct me if I am wrong but I beleive we were about 2 years behind the US with the models. The majority of parts for our cars came out of Canada. The 58 and 59 (last model made) here were called the Star model which the USA never got. The Star grill was "borrowed" from another Canadian model which I think was the Meteor, but I could be wrong.
In any case I have a Star model which is exactly the model I was afterGenerally were copied from 55 and 56 meteors, star in grill was vastly downsized. yyy And this is the 55 meteor. yyy
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Warren
Most of what you write is correct.There are some differences our 56-57 uses a US style 55 dash. I'm not sure of the front suspension but we followed suit and 57-59 got 9" rears like US and Canada.
We did not get any 9" diffs in our Customlines. The first 9" was in the 1959 Fairlane, similar to the US model, we called them a Tank Fairlane and kept this model for 1960 with a modified grille.
Our 1956 was very similar to the US model. The '57 was basically our '56 with a different grille, unlike any other in production. Had a big V8 badge and a bonnet emblem off a '55 Meteor. for some weird reason we kept the '55 dash for both thes years.
Our '58 Star model used the Canadian '55 Meteor Rideau grille with '56 Meteor Rideau side stripes. The '58 used a dash similar to a US '56 but used Smiths' 12 volt gauges and speedo.
Just thought I would set it straight.
Regards
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By Canadian Hot Rodder - 13 Years Ago
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Welcome Gary,from the Great White North, you are correct about the Aussie models being produced from Canadian Meteor parts. It is always good to have another Aussie on board, makes up for that "One Bad Apple" in your bunch! I will mention no names of course!!! LOL
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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Canadian Hot Rodder (7/28/2011)
Welcome Gary,from the Great White North, you are correct about the Aussie models being produced from Canadian Meteor parts. It is always good to have another Aussie on board, makes up for that " One Bad Apple" in your bunch! I will mention no names of course!!! LOL Thats you LON!
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Apple - did you mention Apple. I don't think we have any members from the apple isle, Tasmania
Regards
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By Canadian Hot Rodder - 13 Years Ago
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Bill, like anyone would NOT know that the "Bad Apple" is Lon!!! At least the other Aussies that came over with the "OLD Crusty One" were respectable representatives of Australia!
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By oldcarmark - 13 Years Ago
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Interesting seeing the variations on the Canadian Meteor.Were the export models all right hand drive?As I understand all exported vehicles were done through Ford of Canada.I see parts catalogues from Oz for these cars listed on Ebay occasionally but they are the Canadian issued standard parts books like I have in my library of manuals.How did the dealerships determine what exterior trim parts to order if they only had the regular Canadian Ford and Meteor parts catalogues?Looking at the pics there is quite a combination of different years of Meteor parts on them.
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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oldcarmark (7/29/2011) Interesting seeing the variations on the Canadian Meteor.Were the export models all right hand drive?As I understand all exported vehicles were done through Ford of Canada.I see parts catalogues from Oz for these cars listed on Ebay occasionally but they are the Canadian issued standard parts books like I have in my library of manuals.How did the dealerships determine what exterior trim parts to order if they only had the regular Canadian Ford and Meteor parts catalogues?Looking at the pics there is quite a combination of different years of Meteor parts on them. Mark, you,re right, most of our 57,58,59 customlines were a mixture of left over 55.56 parts, workshop manuals and parts books specifically for 58,59 star models are rare to non existant. Over here we dont have the details you seem to have relating to manufacture, production and sales nubers etc. there is some local old newspaper/mag adds for them but real details are scarce as i said. Ford motor co here at one time would send from their archives advertising posters for a small fee. There were glove box user guide hand books, but most repair books were 56 local only. I have most reference books but no real 58 specific w/s manuals. The dealers had microfisch files with parts, these were obviously US/ Canadian parts etc.. I worked at 2 ford dealers and never forget when they had regular shelf cleanup in parts section, all the unclaimed back ordered anddead stock was put in big wooden crates to be sold off to smaller dealers, we were offered anything for $1.00 a peice. 56 grill halves, parking lights, side trim,etc only problem was we were paid small amount and i,d be 2 months pay booked up in parts. YYY
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By oldcarmark - 13 Years Ago
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Thats a very interesting library you have there Bill.Looks like there were several unique Ozzie catalogues after all.Were all export(to Oz) right hand drives or were they a mix of left and right?If they were right hand it must have been a little awkwrd especially with the standard shift on the column right next to the drivers door.Were any cars automatics or all standard shift?
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Here in Oz we think it is odd to have the shift on the right side of the column. All our Fords had a left hand column shift on the manuals. Funnily enough when we got the first auto in 57 they kept the gear shift on the right. There was mixed feelings about it and the 59 Fairlane went back to left hand shift for the auto.
It was an issue for some as the shift is very close to the door and pillar.the biggest hassle though is the lack of room in or cars down the right side of the engine, with the steering, clutch, gear shift and starter motor all fighting for their own bit of space. It is even tighter if you Want to run a twin exhaust system. Tri y exhausts are very hard to squeeze in. Most use a fabricated header similar to the standard exhaust but with the right hand outlet flange rotated 90 degrees. The left hand side of the engine bay is very bare.
I am sure others will have some comments.
Regards
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By Grizzly - 13 Years Ago
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Rick, I agree that the right side of the engine is very busy. I'm yet to go down the dual exhaust/header road but I can see a lot of issues. It would be interesting to see if the Jerry Christenson or new Mummert headers work with a floorshift. Snowcone, I guess it depends on what your planning. If you're just going to enjoy your car as it is or restore it, or modify it in some way. The information is out there. It's good to join a club. This forum is an excellent source of information but not necessarily focused on your particular car but great for general info and problem solving. The great thing is you have your car and you can go from there. Cheers
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By snowcone - 13 Years Ago
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I am restoring it but only as far as rust removal etc.
I want to make a daily/weekend driver out of it.
It will never be a showcar, just a nice old dog with an original stock Y block.
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