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By John Mummert - 13 Years Ago
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I got some pictures today of the new headers for Y-Block cars. These are Tri-Y style and were built around a 1955 so should fit most applications. This set has 1-1/2" primaries but can be built with 1-5/8" . Secondary tube is 2". These headers will be sent to Ted for dyno testing. 
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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John, can we assume you will be selling these headers. Look pretty awesome.
Thanks,
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By John Mummert - 13 Years Ago
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MC, yes the manufacturer wants to sell them in quantities of 10 sets at a time. And yes, there is definitely life east of PCH!
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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John, you Da man... any idea when they will be available?
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By THRASHER - 13 Years Ago
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Any idea on cost ?...can they be made in different size tubes (1 3/4 into inch )??????
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By Genuinerod - 13 Years Ago
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Are these headers made by Jerry Jardine? I used his headers back in the 60's and they were some of the best made in the business. I read somewhere that he was making a set of headers for the 50's Y block cars. If this is Jardine headers, you can expect some quality work.
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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Genuinerod, see the other thread, John mentions they are made by jerry Jardine. http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic55785-4-4.aspx
John, Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested in Your (Jardine's?) Headers. Do you know how close they come to the Master Cylinder (Not me, but the one on the car...). The reason I ask in I have a power brake booster on mine and it looks like there may be some interference.
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By Genuinerod - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks for setting me straight MC. I first went to Jerry Jardine in 1965 with a new GTO at his shop in Garden Grove. Headers never leaked and worked great. Later had a custom set made by his people for my 57 Ford. Wish I still had that car. I now have a 57 T Bird that I have had for 43 years. Starting to build my third engine. It will be a 338 using John's stroker kit. All I need is the heads from John (it has been a 13 months now) hint, hint.
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By John Mummert - 13 Years Ago
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Final price is not clear at this point. The headers will come to me painted in high heat paint. Some of you will want them coated so I need to get a price for that too. As for clearance issues on modified cars, it is too soon to tell. Actually, you have more information than I do. You have the car to look at and the pictures of the headers. There are many types of brake boosters. I don't know if Jerry took power brakes into consideration. As far as tube diameter goes, I think that 1-5/8" primaries will be larger enough for most applications.
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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Thank's John, yeah kinda dumb question on my part. Thought you just might know off hand how close they are to the stock M/C then I could guestimate how close it would be to my booster (which is 9" in diameter but raised ~5" from stock position).
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By John Mummert - 13 Years Ago
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I spoke to Jerry yesterday and asked about the P/B booster interferrence. He is going to a car show this weekend to look at some 55-56 Fords and get an idea what kind of boosters are being used. The #8 tube might be lowered if that would provide more clearance. The only set of these headers are 1500 miles away so all I have is a picture to look at.
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By Y block Billy - 13 Years Ago
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Great Job, I think I will be needing a set of these in the near future along with one of your intakes. Now to wait on Teds results, but isn't the dyno mule getting modified? curious to see the comparison to stock duals.
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (6/14/2011)
Now to wait on Teds results, but isn't the dyno mule getting modified? Curious to see the comparison to stock duals.The dyno mule will be back in the same controlled format that was present when doing the other exhaust tests . The new ‘Tri-Y’ headers are here and have been ‘broken in’ while testing some other cylinder heads just to get a feel for what kind of collector extensions need to be on hand when the headers are run through their paces in a controlled test. The 312 dyno engine is currently doing cylinder head testing right now in between ‘paying’ jobs.
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By Y block Billy - 13 Years Ago
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Paying jobs, whats that? everybody wants me to work for charity. Are you going to test the dyno mule with same combination that you did all the other test and make sure it is making the same power as a previous test?
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By Lord Gaga - 13 Years Ago
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John Mummert (6/3/2011)
I got some pictures today of the new headers for Y-Block cars. These are Tri-Y style and were built around a 1955 so should fit most applications. This set has 1-1/2" primaries but can be built with 1-5/8" . Secondary tube is 2". These headers will be sent to Ted for dyno testing.
Do you know if these will fit a '57-59 chassis? (non power brake)
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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Lord Gaga (6/17/2011)
Do you know if these will fit a '57-59 chassis? (non power brake)My understanding is that these headers will fit a ’55, ’56, and ’57 car chassis with a standard or automatic transmission. The '58/'59 cars were not mentioned in the conversation. I was also told that with a standard transmission, the column shift linkage in front of the firewall will not clear. I’ve already had these headers on the dyno mule and the left side header pulls in much more tightly at the bellhousing than some of the other headers I’ve had on the engine. That sure doesn’t hurt in regards to steering box or frame clearance issues.
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (6/16/2011)
......Are you going to test the dyno mule with same combination that you did all the other test and make sure it is making the same power as a previous test?Yes. Here’s the link to the post in the technical section that gives more detail.http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic59375-3-1.aspx
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By Richard - 13 Years Ago
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An info if they will fit a 54.
Thanks,
Richard
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By Edd Patterson - 13 Years Ago
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John; my stock 292 2bbl with Holley 500 cfm runs smooth as silk. It's a driver and I go wherever I want to with it. Once upon a time i put a set of 3-dueces on it for fun but could never get them to stop stumbling and run as smooth as my 2bbl. I yanked them back off and went back to my stock intake. Now I'm thinking about putting your low-rise 4bbl intake on it just because I think it looks cool. Two questions for you: Will my stock 292 run really smooth as a driver with your 4bll intake or will I get into the stumbling kind of issues I had with the deuces? Secondly, how large of a 4bbl Holley would you reccommend on your 4bbl low rise? I am a complete novice here and only want a driver to cruise with.
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By The Master Cylinder - 13 Years Ago
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Edd Patterson (7/4/2011)
John; my stock 292 2bbl with Holley 500 cfm runs smooth as silk. It's a driver and I go wherever I want to with it. Once upon a time i put a set of 3-dueces on it for fun but could never get them to stop stumbling and runas smooth as my 2bbl.I yankedthem back off and went back to my stock intake.
Now I'm thinking about putting your low-rise 4bbl intake on it just because I think it looks cool. Two questions for you:
Will my stock 292 run really smooth as a driver with your 4bll intake or will I get into the stumbling kind of issues I had with the deuces?
Secondly, how large of a 4bbl Holley would you reccommend on your 4bbl low rise?
I am a complete novice here and only want a driver to cruise with.
Welcome Edd and Happy 4th to you. I don't have an answer to your questions but may I suggest that you start a new thread for your subject so it gets exposure it deserves by having a heading of it's own.
Just my 1¢.
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By John Mummert - 13 Years Ago
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The headers you see in the pictures are proto-types and have yet to be tested on the dyno. Some changes may still be made. 1 change will be another set with 1-5/8" primaries. The #8 tube will be lowered if possible to make more room for a brake booster. As to every possible application they might or might not fit only time will tell. We don't have a yard with every model Ford ever made with a Y-Block to test fit. Futhermore, add in the modifications that have been made with various brake boosters ect. and there is really no way of knowing. A 55 model was chosen because the engine compartment is tighter than the 57 and later models. Theroetically, if they fit a 55 they should fit later models, but until it is actually tried there is no way to know.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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These are the 1 5/8" ones I was waiting for!
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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Yeah, been waiting myself... for over a year now.
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By John Mummert - 12 Years Ago
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To those waiting on the passenger car headers. An extended illness in Jerry Jardine's family has prevented him from working on the headers.
Hopefully everyone will be well soon and Jerry can get back to work. I'm certain he is ready to get back to work but for now his thoughts are elsewhere.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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I’ll add that I did the dyno tests for two different sets of Y passenger car headers for Jerry and both sets are on the top for HP numbers for all the passenger car headers that were tested. Jerry even addressed those back tubes that are cracking at the flanges on other headers and looks like he had a fix for that. I recently sent back the prototype headers per Jerry’s request so that’s a good sign that header production is in the foreseeable near future.
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By john Smith - 12 Years Ago
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That was really Awesome... I am interested in buying it.. can you tell me is it available or not?
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By enthusiastm - 10 Years Ago
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Hi, these Jardine headers for passenger cars look wildly cool. Any news???
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By lyonroad - 10 Years Ago
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Michael, pardon my ignorance but is a Business Sedan a Tudor without a back seat or are there other differences?
Thanks
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By PF Arcand - 10 Years Ago
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Guys, not sure, but I think the Jardine headers thing collapsed due to unforseen circumstances .
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By Y block Billy - 10 Years Ago
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What??? Im still waiting! Could he possibly give/sell the design to somebody else for production?
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By RodL - 10 Years Ago
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Hey guys, anybody tried Rex High Performance eng. http://www.rexhp.com/index.html Check their extractors
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By Y block Billy - 10 Years Ago
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I wonder if he is willing to send a set to Ted for Testing?
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By RodL - 9 Years Ago
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I've given up on other people making headers, and I'm in the process of fabricating my own based on a design used here in Oz in the late 50's early 60's. and originally on my car in a beat up condition! I'll post pic's once I get the manifold plate laser cut.
For those who may like: ebay.com/bhp/y-block-headers
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By slick56 - 9 Years Ago
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RodL (1/12/2015)
I've given up on other people making headers, and I'm in the process of fabricating my own based on a design used here in Oz in the late 50's early 60's. and originally on my car in a beat up condition! I'll post pic's once I get the manifold plate laser cut.
For those who may like: ebay.com/bhp/y-block-headers
Howdy Rod, the ebay link doesn't work.
Have you tried Cusso Bill for header plates?
I have seen some advertised recently, but can't remember where...
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By RodL - 9 Years Ago
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That link just worked for me. Try googling this if you can't find it. Chines ? all makes ford , and others.
I didn't know Cusso Bill had them. I've just had an email from WA to say mine are ready to send. Should have them in a couple of days.
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By Canadian Hot Rodder - 9 Years Ago
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found an interesting set of headers on the net for Y-Blocks made by a company called "High Performance Products" ( http://www.hi-flow.com/HP010aEH.html )
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