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By scottrod - 14 Years Ago
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Ok, I'm new here, so I'll make this short. I just bought a '64 F-100 with what I'm assuming to be the original 292 Y. I bought it locally and I'm friends with one of the gentlemen who helped rebuild this engine several years ago, although I didn't know the owner before buying the truck. Neither one of them knows exactly what they put into this engine, and it didn't run when I bought it. It had old gas and a VERY dirty carb. It now runs pretty good except I think it needs a new carb. According to the previous owner, he didn't put more than 200-300 miles on it before parking it, so it's a fresh rebuild. My big question is: Is this engine, in good running order, worth anything? I'm actually thinking of selling it and the 3-speed and putting in a Windsor/C-4 combo. I know, I know...you're all Y-block fans and probably can't figure out why I would do such a thing, but the fact is, I'm still considering it. Can anyone tell me what I might be able to get for it? Thanks,
ScottRod
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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I don't know, maybe $4-500ish. If you can prove it was rebuilt by providing documentation, it can be worth more but sitting for several years doesn't help it.
If you don't mind my asking, why are you considering a windsor?
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By scottrod - 14 Years Ago
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Well, I cannot provide anything on it, other than it runs good and I could probably take video of it running and driving before pulling it out. Considering the Windsor because I've had alot of them, experience working on them, parts are more readily available, etc. This is a driver. ScottRod
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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scottrod (7/21/2010)
Considering the Windsor because I've had alot of them, experience working on them, parts are more readily available, etc. This is a driver.
ScottRod
If this is your only reason, then I encourage you to learn about the Y. If you can work on a Windsor, you can work on a Y.
Mine is a driver. When I'm not modifying it, it is my primary source of transportation. I drive it all year long. Many other here do as well. As with a Windsor, reliability is not an issue when things are done right. In the event that something does break, parts are available enough, many through local chain stores, that if you have another vehicle, it is not a concern. It's far more likely that other parts of the truck will need replacement, which are equally, if not more difficult to find. I know because I have one.
You can put a C4 behind a Y if you wish.
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By 46yblock - 14 Years Ago
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In addition to what Charlie said, value depends a little on your location too. In this area of S. OR it probably wouldnt bring more than $400 if that, even with documentation. Two main reasons are the state of current economy which is even worse here that most places, and there are too many scrub and SBF lovers. SBF stuff goes pretty cheap too, however. A couple years back a man gave me a free rebuilt never installed C-4! Personally I think at least half of the interest provided by a '64 F-100 is the engine.
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By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
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Everyone is being polite so I will try too. I like Fords but I love the Y, it has a character all its own and a little more personality than a SBF. A Windsor is a good engine, I am building one now for a Mustang, but as said before you will get more respect and a lot more fun questions if you retain the Y in your '64.  Your engine may get $300-$500 here in CA. Welcome to the Y site. 
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By bird55 - 14 Years Ago
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If you have to let it go let us know where you are located.
I would love to have it for my 64 f100.
I'll let it live on.
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By MD55Bird - 14 Years Ago
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I'm new here too. I have been building engines for 30 years and just finished my first Y block and I must say it's been great. It is a neat engine and the crowds at the shows sure like it. You just don't see too many of them around. I was going to swap in a SBF and even thought about a mod motor in my 55 Bird instead I added an AOD and a set of gears. Glad I did. Wayne
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By PWH42 - 14 Years Ago
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I've put over 300,000 miles on a couple of Windsors without the slightest bit of trouble,so I am a great fan of them.However,I would not even think of replacing a Y-block with one.The Y sound, durability and torque characteristics make it a truly unique engine.
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By speedpro56 - 14 Years Ago
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Another fact is you will devalue the truck when you take the Y out and replace with a windsor. I believe the y is much more fun to work with and a much better conversation piece when the hood is open....................especially if you do any buildups on the engine THEY really do look great !!!!!!!!!!! AND adding more power is no more a big deal than doing it with a windsor only the Y will create more conversation with the public so you will be busier .
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By PF Arcand - 14 Years Ago
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It always amazes me that the owner of a "rebuilt" engine doesn't have any bills or records of the expense & work. Personally, to me that's a red flag. In most cases like that, the claims of a rebuild is just bull!
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By MD55Bird - 14 Years Ago
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I buy, sell and swap a lot of stuff. If there are no records then I judge it's value based on what I can see and nothing more. In a case like this I would base it on the block numbers, head numbers, intake, carb, dist...you get the picture. I have purchased quite a few "rebuilt" engines and opened them up to find their idea of a rebuild was a few new gaskets, intake manifold and 2 cans of paint. Wayne
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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I wonder if he'll be back?
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By 314 - 14 Years Ago
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i have often gone the other way.in 1980 i put a 272 in a 70 ltd.i later put a 292 in a 78 1/2 ton.the reaction was well worth it.
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By 46yblock - 14 Years Ago
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charliemccraney (7/23/2010)
I wonder if he'll be back?We may have blitzed Scott out of here. Regarding receipts. I have found them hard to get. Never have received an itemization of machine work done. As for the parts I usually purchase on my own, receipts? Purchases from all over the place over as much as 2 years for a complete engine. The last machine shop work I had done on a set of heads several months ago. Tanked and blasted. One head was milled. Both heads had hardened intake and exhaust seats installed. New guides, positive valve seals, installed spring height set, seats ground, 8 valves ground, and a guide boss ground down due to crack. 4 new exhaust valves and 4 intakes taken from my cabinet and I have no idea where they came from. The shop owner thought he owed me too much for a set of 312 rods I gave him to get someone else's project out the door ( Poorly stated, but I think he overvalued the rods ). It ended up being $100. If I showed someone that receipt they probably wouldnt be impressed  , but even it isnt around. Went in the trash.
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By John Mummert - 14 Years Ago
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Guys with questions like this really annoy me. I don't care if a guy buys an old Ford with a Y-Block and doesn't want to keep it. Its his vehicle, its his business. BUT, don't try to sell it me as something valuable. If it ain't good enough for your project why should I pay a bunch of money for it. If its junk to you, its junk to me!
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By crenwelge - 14 Years Ago
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I divide my interest between Y blocks and inline GMC. Ever so often some one will join a site just to get a free appraisal. I suggest they put the item on eBay and find out what its worth. Taylor & Martin is probably the most respected truck remarketer in the US. I have been attending their absolute auction sales as a buyer and a seller for almost 40 years. They have a saying the true value of something is what it will bring at a no reserve absolute auction.
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By scottrod - 14 Years Ago
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First of all, I'm not blitzed outta here, I've just been busy. As for the rebuild, I have no doubt work was done as I know the gentleman who helped with it (a judge) and he has no reason to lie to me. As for what they did to it exactly, that's anyone's guess. I have also asked the local machine shop owner and he remembers doing work to it, but again, no documentation or specific memory. As for it being "junk", it's not. I assure you it runs very well and I drive it quite a bit. It seems like I've asked the wrong crowd as you are all y-block fans, (duh, the website). Perhaps I'll just leave it in and put an AT behind it then. Thanks anyway,
ScottRod
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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Welcome to the site Scott. Without any paper work to back up what’s been done to the engine, then some basic information on how the engine physically runs along with the oil pressure and a compression check would be a start. The value without documentation will vary and is very dependant upon the area or crowd that’s in a market for the engine. A complete list of what comes with the engine (ie. carb, brackets, bellhousing, etc) also helps in determining some kind of asking price. And if you can put any kind of guarantee on the engine, this also helps in getting more for it. What you have is obviously worth a lot more than just core prices but the final price will have a lot to do with what information you can provide regarding overall condition of the engine, locale, and/or the ability to ship.
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