By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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Seems like a lifetime ago that I ran down to Charlie's to pick up the heads that Tim rebuilt for me... I just came in from cinching down the pretty 573, and all that remains is bolting on the exhaust manifolds and thermostat housing, pre-lubing the engine, and firing it off...as long as all is well, the intake will come back off and the engine compartment will get detailed...I am pretty excited about that prospect, and the end of the underhood spending extravaganza... Finally found my unicorn, the elusive Edelbrock valve covers, which are heading off to the polisher tomorrow...also tentatively decided to go with polished aluminum velocity stacks...figured they would better complement the polished valve covers, and provide an undeniable "hot rod" feel under hood...should also help me here the howl of the 94's One of the valve covers: The velocity stacks (on order now) on a sweet little Nailhead: Also cleaning up the old Hedman one-off's as there were a couple of pin holes in the welds that needed to be addressed. No pictures now, as I am waiting for a true "before" and "after" shots to share. The pictures of my 573 (in another thread) are all you get for now. I really appreciate the technical advice I've received from this forum, as I really only joined after I got the 'Bird. Feel like I've made some friends and continue to learn A LOT! And to: "mctim64" for the beautiful head rebuild, and endless silly questions answered... "57fordpu" for the stories, chat, and helping with the hand-off from Tim... "YBLOCKMERC" forsetting me up with my Edelbrock valve covers... Updates and pictures wil be coming soon!
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Todd,
What are you using for ported vacuum for your distributor advance?
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By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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Mark, I must have read every thread I could find on the subject a couple times. While my W&H distributor is what I'll be using for the test fire-up, I am going to go with a Mallory tach-drive electronic distributor. It will be all mechanical advance, so I can side-step the entire vacuum issue. Frankly, it's operation "stuff-can the vacuum lines" under the hood for me--as much as possible, that is... Vacuum brake booster--gone Vacuum for wipers--routed differently Manifold vacuum port--plugged
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By davis - 14 Years Ago
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thats a sweet lookin nailhead!
dig those motor mounts too.
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By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
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Nice lookin' Buick. I've always had a soft spot for "Nailheads" one of the reasons i went with the 322ci 4.0" x 3.2" combo in my FED engine. My dad was a Buick man through and through my uncle was the Ford guy, I always liked his F-600 truck I think that's what started me on the road to being a Ys guy. Your stuff looks great Todd, can't wait to hear it run.
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By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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Figured I'd throw out a little teaser on some progress on the T-bird... It has been fired, and all seems well. Hadn't shared these with many, but here you go (I apologize for all the blathering...was exhausted & delirious )...a little noisy with open manifolds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wCH--Zcgxk It was promptly take back apart for the aforementioned under hood attention...just about ready to (really) start reassembly...here's a quick shot of before I tore it down, and where it is currently. And yes, I deliberately left the chrome V/C's on it to use them as masking... fresh from the barn: As of this weekend: More to come soon...
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By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
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Todd, I went with the Mallory electronic in my 56 but it didn't have a vacum advance. So my new engine will be running the MSD. Might want to check that out. Chuck in NH (T-Bird sounds sweet!)
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By ecode ragtop - 14 Years Ago
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LOOKING GOOD, POST MORE PICTURES AS YOU GO. THANKS TOM
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By YellowWing - 14 Years Ago
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That looks great Todd! Am doing the same thing Myself. Gives Me encouragement. Mike
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By Duck - 14 Years Ago
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You missed a spot ... ( I kid with you! ) very nicely done- /Duck
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By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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OK...a couple more teasers... Here's why I don't care about the overspray on the valve covers:
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By unibodyboy - 14 Years Ago
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You might find that those wing nuts are not compatible with the Edelbrock valve covers because they are not deep enough. Found that with the same setup.
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By pegleg - 14 Years Ago
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Todd, When your budget recovers I still have some T'Bird thermostats in Aluminum.
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By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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Frank, I sent you a message Greg, the wing nuts are actually pretty tall. Taller than they look in the pictures. Long tapered 45º on the base...
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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Well, she's alive...off to the exhaust shop today! Some little bits of frosting to add under the hood once all dial-in is done, but she's running & driving better than expected! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLUr2CkCeRQ&feature=youtu.be
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By matt2491 - 12 Years Ago
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Fan-friggin-tastic! That will make for one sexy top end!
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By pintoplumber - 12 Years Ago
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I don't know Todd, I think you need a taller windshield.
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Very cool! Although like Dennis said it looks like a kiddie car with you behind the wheel.
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By pegleg - 12 Years Ago
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todd, reading thru this, never got the message or simply forgot (old age) I still ahve some of the 'Bird thermos left.
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By Barry L - 12 Years Ago
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Frank , Please save one of those t-bird thermo/housings for me. Bring it to Columbus or hand it off to Jerry C. if you see him before then. Let me know how much $$ and I'll send you the money. Thanks Barry L ( manitoba)
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By NoShortcuts - 12 Years Ago
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Todd-
Congratulations! I LIKE the velocity stacks!
Consider checking out So-Cal Speed Shop listing of stainless steel bug dome screens for your carbs. They're listed as fitting Stromberg, Holley, and Ford style 48, 81, 94, and 97 carbs. I think that they'll work with the stacks...
OTBGear makes 'em. -Part No. 4020.
So-Cals Part No. is OTBGR001060
Regards,
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By YBLOCKMERC - 12 Years Ago
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Outstanding Todd! Kind of a shame to have to muffle that awesome rumble of an unrestricted Y exhaust.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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NoShortcuts (5/16/2012) Todd- Congratulations! I LIKE the velocity stacks!
Consider checking out So-Cal Speed Shop listing of stainless steel bug dome screens for your carbs. They're listed as fitting Stromberg, Holley, and Ford style 48, 81, 94, and 97 carbs. I think that they'll work with the stacks...
OTBGear makes 'em. -Part No. 4020. So-Cals Part No. is OTBGR001060
Regards,
Thanks! Look close, they're already installed! Got a few from SoCal Sacramento recently. For anyone considering these, they do need some massaging (on a 94 at least) to clear the vent tube, as well as the choke butterfly. They look cool though! The velocity stacks are from Seller's Equipped, and I don't believe he makes them anymore. They are spun aluminum. I milled them down for hood clearance, then had them polished with the Edelbrock V/C's that aren't yet installed. I couldn't find any conventional air cleaner bodies that would clear my hood and look right with the whole package.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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YBLOCKMERC (5/16/2012) Outstanding Todd! Kind of a shame to have to muffle that awesome rumble of an unrestricted Y exhaust.Thanks, and I agree about the sound...sure was fun running around the neighborhood with open headers & down tubes! The kids that were on recess at the school up the street sure liked it (not sure about the teachers:w00t Should still have a nice exhaust note. 2" duals with 18" glass packs (installed backwards, to mitigate some of the "fluff") should fit the bill. Was planning on 2 1/4", but 2" was much more suited to the stock frame, hangers, etc. I am running the exhaust through simple turn downs at the rear bumper. The stock bumper exit deflectors make the exhaust sound really "farty" as it bounces around.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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Exhaust is done...2" duals with glass packs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNuiC4qVbRs&feature=youtu.be
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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Well, I met my goal, made it to the Graffiti Night cruise in my home town of Modesto...car performed beautifully, just needs to be final tuned... The finished engine compartment (I caught the fuel line clamp on the #1 carb: Here's me and the Bird "Audrey" at the cruise as captured by a local auto journalist: I also had my sister's '62 Lincoln (which she got from Dad after he passed) gone over for her, so we could park & cruise together...she was pretty happy... Her '62 got a lot of attention, too...repainted in the original color... The '56 to my left was still Y-block powered! A really nice car!
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By 57FordPU - 12 Years Ago
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Congrats Todd, the bird looks great. Now all the hard work will pay off as you enjoy the cruises and shows. Didn't know about the Lincoln, it's nice that your sister took an interest in that. With the 61 they would make a great trio on the grass somewhere. The cars are a nice way to honor your dad, he was a great man.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 12 Years Ago
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Todd,
That is a truly fine looking ride. The engine is beautiful. I am curious as to what fuel regulator and pressure you have it set at. Also, what brand of fuel pressure gauge you have mounted on the fuel log. I am using two of the end carbs I got from you plus another from the bunch I bought from Charlie Burns for the primary on my Bird. I sorted out the "push" throttle linkage so it works but want to revisit it with a better set of joints. I am not running a regulator at present using the stock 57 fuel pump. The gauge I have from Vintage Speed is unreliable. Runs good but has the chronic 94 problem of bleeding down after it sits for awhile. Thanks.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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Charlie, thanks for the kind words as always. Dad & I bought the Lincoln in 1987 (if I recall correctly) at the Turlock Swap Meet. I was 9 years old at the time, but still remember the test drive. The paint was dead, but the body was straight as an arrow and absolutely rust free. The intererior remains original, though showing age on the driver's seat, to this day. Dad gave the Lincoln to her (and I a '61 Imperial) years before he passed. Mark, it took me a while to decide on the fuel line set-up. My goal was to keep the look simple & uncluttered, but reliable & as "period" appearing as possible. That being said, I took several liberties. From the pump to the filter/reg. ass'y I used a hard line that exits the pump with a 90º brass fitting identical to the factory pump inlet line fitting. The regulator & filter are from Speedway & have functioned beautifully thus far. As supplied the regulator was chrome, and the filter was polished. I fastened them together with a brass union, as they were both female pipe thread at the outlet/inlet. I then scuffed, primed, and painted them Ford red to match the engine so they'd blend in to the front of the engine. From there, rubber lines, brass nipples, and stainless constant-tension clamps were used. The fuel block is a reproduction piece from Edelbrock, and the gauge was purchased from Dick York at dickshotrodplace.com (who also built & restored my carbs). I deliberately set the initial advance on the retarded side. When I put it where it runs the best, the car wants to be driven FAST, and just explodes to hi rev's when the 3x2 is opened up. Not the best way to go about working the bugs out. So far I'm very happy with my Mallory Uni-lite. I did notice that it had a bunch of end play from the factory, so it will need to be shimmed. But very crisp, and far easier to start than the old W&H dual point. The push linkage is a huge PITA. So much so that I used the old tripower rod between the factory acc. linkage and the primary carb. I couldn't make a new one work as well... My carbs bleed down too. I don't know that there's much way around it. my rear carb seeped a bit when I fired it up again, but has since stopped, so the gaskets are hopefully getting reinvigorated. I think the stuff gas may be evaporating faster than ever also. The seeping was my fault. I ran the car a couple times, than took it all apart, and due to more pressing family issues it sat dormant for 1 1/2 years. Geez, just realized I wrote a book here. Hope some of it helps someone...
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By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks for the pictures Todd! Looks like "Graffiti Night" was a success. Glad you and your sister had a good time. Don't worry about writing books, I liked reading about your engine.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 12 Years Ago
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Todd, I read somewhere that the new Edelbrock 94's are supposed to correct the bleed down problem. Not to sure about that plus the gas boiling after shutting off the engine is another problem. My bird has no room left for a phenolic spacer to insulate the carbs unless I want to cut holes in the hood. I used chrome stainless steel lines from Vintage Speed with absolutely no leakage. I had to modify the lines that Charlie sent me to clear the linkage so I feel comfortable bending up new ones. It wasn't as hard as I expected. I am using the stock tach drive 57 distributor with Petronix and MSD 6 but it needs to be gone through. At this point I have the vacuum advance plugged and bumped up the initial enough that the mechanical advance gets me to the right total advance. Still need to work on that. Thought about coming to some of the events over your way but not ready to push the Bird over Hecker and Pacheco Pass yet. It is a fairly strenuous drive from Santa Cruz.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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I guess I'm just lucky that I'm not experiancing fuel boil/bubbling. I have plumbing parts to run lines a few different ways, including the original "tree" lines from the Edelbrock installation way back when. While not 100% true to the "way it was" I'm happy with the results. I have no leakage at the lines/joints, and the carb leakage seems to have resolved itself as long as it's driven regularly. I still have to plumb/re-route the vac. lines to operate the wipers and heater controls Though I have chrome bullets over the w/s wipers, I still would like to have a functional heater. I'd considered a '57 dizzy, but was unable to find one, even a core, for what I'd consider reasonable. I had Pertronix quote making a plate for the old W&H that the car had, but it was more than the Unilte, and I'd still have an old distributor with orphan caps, etc...I'm confident it will suit my needs once all is dialed in. Gonna re-set the rockers, give it a bit more advance, and a couple carb tweaks now that I have a few hundred miles on it.
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By BIGREDTODD - 12 Years Ago
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I should also add that the Sanderson headers are awesome, and well worth the money. Easier to work around also. Pricey, but worth it.
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