Adapting a Scrub SFI damper...John?


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By RB - 14 Years Ago
John F did an article in YBM on how to put a SBC damper on a Y Does anybody recall in what number issue that article appeared
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Don't know the article but we did it with the "Brick", not very hard just need a spacer made from an old Y damper, and hone out the scrub SFI one.  Charlie, do you know the damper part #?
By Teros292 - 14 Years Ago
It is in May-June 1995 issue.
By Glen Henderson - 14 Years Ago
I'll jump in here just in case Ted does not see this post right away. He has a new y block damper that just became available and is very reasonable in price. I don't recall the name of the mfg, but they are SFI approved and use the four bolt Ford pulley.
By Ted - 14 Years Ago

Royce.  Check your email.

 

Innovators West has just come on board as a supplier of SFI approved dampers for the Y.  It’s essentially half the price of the Y specific ATI damper and uses a four bolt SBF pulley pattern on the front of it.  These dampers are fully degreed at 5° increments around its perimeter and the 90° marks are of course larger than the rest.  Between the 30° and 50° marks, the marks are in 2° increments.  TDC mark itself is in the stock Y-Block position so the stock passenger car and pickup timing pointer will be in the right position.

 

I’ve just got these in and as such, haven’t had the opportunity to test mount one of these.  I’ll do that in the next couple of days.  I’ll post a picture later this week.

By Ted - 14 Years Ago

Here’s pics of a stock damper, the new Innovators West damper, and a ATI damper.

 

 

 

When a belt pulley is mounted on the front of the Innovators West damper, the fan pulley and alternator/generator pulleys must be spaced forward ~¾”.  Accessories must also be spaced forward when using a ATI damper, the belt alignment is also a problem so nothing new there.

By Barry L - 14 Years Ago
Ted,    What's the diameter of that new damper? Could a crank trigger(sm. block Ford 302) be mounted on there behind an alt. pulley?  M/O will be sent Thurs.   Barry L
By Ted - 14 Years Ago
The Innovators West harmonic damper is 6½” in diameter while the belt pulley is 5½” in overall diameter.  Although I haven’t got to that point yet, a crank trigger designed for a SBF is expected to bolt properly to the front of the I.W. damper.  To attach the belt pulley to the front of the crank trigger may require a sleeve depending upon the design of the crank trigger plate.  The same lip that's on the front of a factory SBF damper is on the front of the Innovators West damper.
By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
I visited their sites, but so far Y-block damper is not in their lists. What is the price for it?
By Doug T - 14 Years Ago
Hi Ted,

Is there a TBird balancer in the planning stages? It doesn't look like that one will fit a Bird

By Ted - 14 Years Ago
Hollow Head (3/25/2010)
I visited their sites, but so far a Y-block damper is not in their lists.  What is the price for it?
If purchased directly from Innovators West, the damper price is currently $375.  Stocking dealers may be able to give some additional price breaks or discounts.
Doug T (3/25/2010)
Hi Ted, Is there a TBird balancer in the planning stages? It doesn't look like that one will fit a Bird
Doug.  I haven’t discussed a Thunderbird specific damper with Innovators West.  Up to this point I really hadn’t considered the T-Bird application until you brought it up.  On my end, I’d need a minimum order of five to make it a production item and not a custom ‘high priced’ job.
By pegleg - 14 Years Ago
Doug,

John Wilson, AKA "Snowbird" on ebay, had a unit for F code birds a few years ago. I think it was based off a Fluiddamper but I honestly don't remember. Ted and others have told me that the fluid versions are not the best way to solve the problem by the way.

By Glen Henderson - 14 Years Ago
You are right on the money Frank, he had some hubs machined and used a Fluidamper.
By Noob - 14 Years Ago
I would buy one for a T-bird... now, we just need 4 or more other birder's, right?

Cheers... Brian