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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Thought it best to ask this in a separate thread. Will an Edelbrock 573 and 3 2bbls (94's) fit under the hood of a 57 Tbird? If so, what linkage changes would be needed to the stock 4bbl automatic 312 set up?
Thanks,
Mark Hebard
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By 55Birdman - 14 Years Ago
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Yes it will fit . You need to get 3 seperate air cleaners for it to fit. I got Mr. Gasket Co. aircleaners. I bought my linkage from Speedway Motors. There isnt a lot of clearance but it wont bump the hood. Use a nut to hold the cleaners down. Dont use the wing nut provided. Or it will bump. The kickdown linkage isnt disturbed if you keep the pivot arm . You dont have to alter anything. Just adjustments screwing things in or out to fit. I made a piece of linkage to go from the middle carb to the pivot arm. Vintage Speed in Fla has good linkage too.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Thanks. I think I am going to go that way. Any recommendations on where to get new 94's or something equivalent? Was your linkage progressive, electric choke option?, etc. I am at sea level so will need appropriate jetting, etc. I have some FE parts to get off that should finance this.
Mark Hebard
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By bird55 - 14 Years Ago
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Repops are available from Speedway motors I think. You also might investigate the Barry Grant 2 barrels - better solutuion iMHO.
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By 55Birdman - 14 Years Ago
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I use progressive linkage. I bought the 94s on ebay and had my cousin who builds engines for nascar guys rebuild the carbs. Carburetor Rebuilders in Arizona does have carbs for sale and is fairly reasonable. If you arent in a big hurry go to swap meets and look around . You should find some cheap. I use a manual choke
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Sorry...thunderstorms coming in from the bay keep knocking out the power here. Trying to watch BarrettJackson at the same time. Barry Grants look to be the ultimate but pricey. Turlock is a couple weeks away so I will look for an intake. Anyone using a PCV system with the Edelbrock 573 or still using draft tubes?
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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MarkMontereyBay (1/19/2010)
.....Anyone using a PCV system with the Edelbrock 573 or still using draft tubes?I used a PCV valve system on an Edelbrock 553 intake with a trio of Holley 2100’s (94’s) in the late Eighties, early Nineties. Center carb was modified so it would provide ported vacuum signal only for the ’57 and up distributor and the setup worked nicely. I blocked the hole for the road draft tube at the side of the block with an expansion plug and then put the dummy road draft tube back in place just for looks.
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By paul2748 - 14 Years Ago
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I believe its Edelbrock that is making repo 94's. There was some info on them in HAMB
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By BIGREDTODD - 14 Years Ago
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Mark, They'll fit, but air cleaner choice is critical...as for the carbs and linkage, I'd recommend Dick York (dickshotrodplace.com). I'm sure he could hook you up with a set of built carbs and linkage...he rebuilt my Holleys, added a new linkage, and detailed out my 573 to look like this: 
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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You can get "New" Strombergs at http://www.stromberg-carburetors.com/ or Chinese copies from Speedway...
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Well...I am choking ( no pun intended ) on the price of the carbs. The manifold pricing isn't that out of line in my book but I am not willing to put out some cash for Chinese stuff and the others, including the Edelbrock 97 that is supposed to hit the market this spring at near 500 clams is a bit silly. I can redo my own carbs well enough with the right information at hand. I cut my teeth as a Ford/Lincoln/Merc tech rebuilding the infamous Variable Venturi, Lincoln bakelite Thermoquads, and Holley/Weber carbs in the late 70's and early 80's. Finding 3 non-hammered up 97's to work with is a real problem. Those carbs were everywhere at one time. I have to educate myself a little or get lucky or more realistically both. I will check with Dicks Hot Rod place but some of the "boutique" builders are very expensive as I am treading that path paved with gold into the astronomically expensive flathead territory. There is a local guy here, Don Orosco, who specializes in flathead unobtainium and I keep an eye on his prices. They will curl your toenails.
Mark Hebard
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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Mark, I agree. Seems everything is getting pretty outrageous. For example Ted is asking to "borrow" some 48 mains for some 97's he is going to test. They are now going for ~ $10.00 each (two for each carb) X three carbs. I'll let you do the math... (Sorry Ted, I was just using that as an example. I did go out and look, the only 48's I have are in my 97's. If I had some extras I would have let you use them. I'm as curious as anyone else what the results would be).
Haven't heard about the Edlebrock 97. So now we have the 'Real reproduction 97's', Speedway's Chinese 9 Super 7 and Edlebrock's 97. And the Barry Grant Demon 98 (guess that makes them one better?).
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Sorry, it is actually an Edelbrock 94 part number 1151 primary, 1152 secondary. Here is the link.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/94_two-barrel.shtml
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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Mark, thanks for the URL. I was not aware that Edlebrock was making a 94 replacement either. Looks like three deuces are getting more popular all the time. I just wish that Moon had continued with their 97 look-alike fuel injection. (Anybody here remember them?).
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By davis - 14 Years Ago
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MarkMontereyBay (1/20/2010)
including the Edelbrock 97 that is supposed to hit the market this spring at near 500 clams is a bit silly.
Mark Hebard
Edelbrock units are going to be near $500? where'd you hear that?
i agree you could probably build up some 94's cheaper than new, but you will have to buy a few cores.
Strombergs are hot item anywhere and those are not cheap.
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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Bob's 55 (1/21/2010)
I just wish that Moon had continued with their 97 look-alike fuel injection. (Anybody here remember them?).
Something like this? http://www.retrotekspeed.com/products/nostalgia-efi/nostalgia-efi_.html
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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I may have over-stated the expected pricing but given Edelbrock's penchant for profit somewhere between 400-500 bucks doesn't seem out of line for them. I have been watching a couple of forums, principally H.A.M.B., discussing the release and prices. Dennis Carpenter apparently has advertised a new carb to be released in the spring for about $200 but that may have fallen through, which many surmised to be the new Edelbrock 94. The market for new carbs, discounting Speedway's Chinese knock-offs, appears to have settled in the high $300 to low $400 range after all costs are included. To be fair, Edelbrock hasn't released any prices yet so it is a waiting game. Given the vast amounts of the original carbs that were produced over many decades, I think there is still a reasonable chance of finding some. That said, with all the high pricing by new manufacturers, what you pay for usable originals will most likely rise also.
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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Charlie, Yes that looks a lot like the Moon Units, I will check them out when I get a chance. Imagine a system that has the cool looks of 3 Deuces and is as tunable as EFI. More expensive that I remember though (of course) Thanks for the link Charlie.
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By shakey pete - 14 Years Ago
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I picked up a 573 for $250 US on ebay plus 3 mod 94 s 8bs for lessthan $100 US then bought 3 carb kit for $75 CAN bought progressive linkage from speedway plus $48 dollors for the air cleaners bought 2 dummy power valves and 5.5 power valve for middle carb have to get power valves turned on a lath to get ridd of the shoulder where the gasket sits because the ones in the kits are wrong follow to dirrections in the carb kits (jiffy kits) it,s apiece of cake to do them clean them up and polish them with polishing compond and they,ll look great changed throttle shafts so linkage fits on the drivers side 54mer Have it all done sits on pool table looks fast I think total price was 450 US fastest pool table in town  shakey Pete
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By MarkMontereyBay - 14 Years Ago
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Shakey,
That's what I'm after but got blown out on Ebay yesterday for a 573 and 3 Holley 94's. Intake needed some repair, the carbs looked sketchy and the posted sale price was $660 at the end of the auction. I don't trust a lot of the stuff on Ebay; been burned before.
Mark Hebard
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