Barbeque time in Finland


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By Glen Henderson - 14 Years Ago
Hollow Head, I fully understand your frustration. Although I can pick up the phone and have UPS back in the driveway with a truck load of parts in a day or two, it's just not in the budget. I have to buy or make parts as the funds are available and right now I am just working on stuff with parts that I have gathered over the years. I will get there, but it just takes time and money.
By Glen Henderson - 13 Years Ago
Wow Seppo, that thing looks like it really starts pulling hard on the big end. Have fun and be safe.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
We need to find a shipping company run by a y-block freak. Imagine Seppo and all the loonies from down under and the UK at Trailways.Take Columbus 5 years to recover from that.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
LON (6/25/2009)
Frank

"Loonies from Down Under " ??? I resemble that remark .

Can you imagine that ,Kiwis,Canadians,Poms,Fins & Aussies .Is America ready for that  ???Wonder if we could buy the Super 8 at Heath .It maybe cheaper than the repair bill .

Lon

    the mind boogles..............or it would if I hadn't lost it somewhere

By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
Larry.................if he doesn't beat Rob this year it's back to Curly!! w00t
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
When you start digging into our histories, you start to find some very confusing patterns. For example Hoosiers ancestors were Germans (never guessed that from the name eh?). Canadian (Rob) has Itialian back ground. Mine's Swiss and Irish, with a bit of English thrown in(limey!) I'd bet most of the Australian contingent is ex-UK. We have some Netherland folks here, some Argentinians. JMUK is English, not sure about Y Blocker, although the name is English, as is Eaton (Ted). What a mish-mash. Neat.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
No I don't actually remember it, happened a couple weeks before I was born.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
Ted,

        Cool that you can trace it back that far. My mother tried that in the '60's, and found one of my Dad's ancestors was a pirate, hung by the British! They didn't even bother to send him to OZ. She got mad and stopped that endeavor. The old man thought it was hilarious until he got the bill from the "Geneology Expert." She couldn't brag about it to Her bridge club buddies and he was mad for a month!

    Moz, I suspected that most of you guys were decendants of that group. I can tell from Lon's "shifty eyes"TongueTongue

By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
It's rather appearant that the Y-not disease knows no ethnic boundries. Henry would be proud.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
Alan Ladd! That goes back a few years.
By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
Probably a stupid question, but can't you rotate that starter motor. Away from the frame? 
By pegleg - 14 Years Ago
Throttle position in an aircraft is read off a "Manifold Pressure Gauge" when the throttle is wide open at sea level on a standard day the gauge should read 29 in. hg.  Usually reads 28 though. Wink

Which is equivalent to approx. 14.7 psi. As you gain altitude, you lose ambient pressure, and horsepower etc. 

By pegleg - 13 Years Ago
that is the nastiest lookin' roadster I have ever seen. Neat!
By GREENBIRD56 - 15 Years Ago
I've been telling my buddy in Singleton, NSW (for years) that the reason Aussies swear so hearty - is the Vegemite. When little toddlers, their mum tricks'em into a taste on a bickie and the next words are @#$%^&*!!

Tried it on my own kid - brought some home - and sure enough, we had to wash his mouth out with soap!!

By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
Wow! You are the man! Cant wait for some you tube shots of that digger hauling a$$. Chuck in NH
By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
FYI Ted used a Marine front cover and oil pan on the rear engine dragster. They are lighter and seem to adapt easily to a dragster setup. Take a look at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Y-Block-Marine-Interceptor-Alum-Pan-Timing-Cover_W0QQitemZ330379278414QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoat_Parts_Accessories_Gear?hash=item4cec23b84e

Chuck in NH

By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
Better safe than sorry! Looks great. Makes me think of a 50's fighter jet or a space shuttle with the hump on the front. Hope the aero works?w00tHehe Chuck in NH
By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
That pass looked great. Nice and straight. Wait until you get used to the car. A better burn out and launch will really set you back in your seat and drop the times a bunch. Car really looks and sounds great. Chuck in nh
By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
I was really liking the pro stock hood scoop setup. It makes the car very unique and easy to spot. Are you going to move all the coolers up behind the radiator shell or still run the scoop with the radiator shell behind it? Chuck
By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
At least your slicks will be running on a clean blow dried track! Tongue Chuck
By yfreak57 - 15 Years Ago
Some progress this week. Fuel tank, pump and regulator...

 

By yfreak57 - 15 Years Ago
More motivation pictures.

By yfreak57 - 15 Years Ago
Last week took FHRA:s (Finnish Hot Rod Association) cage supervisor precheck of our altered. Everything was OK so far but we can't go faster than 7.50 with that steel frame. w00t However that should be enough for us. Cool

Virtual Burnout!!! Tongue

By yfreak57 - 14 Years Ago
At last body is here.

By yfreak57 - 14 Years Ago
Greetings from Irvine, CA.

Good looking job, partner! Sorry that I can't help now to make the car ready... Wink

Yesterday we were at Hootenanny party and today we are heading to Long Beach to look some more bands and cars. Next weekend to El Mirage. Charlie, are you going to be there?

Sorry, no Y-Block cars... Crying

By yfreak57 - 14 Years Ago
That waterpump looks good. We got here all the things you need but I have no attend to bring them with me... Tongue

It's better that we do everything by ourselves. That's called hot rodding.

On the way from San Francisco to Sacramento. w00t

By yfreak57 - 14 Years Ago
Sorry, Carson. Blush

We passed Santa Maria area couple of days a go...

We are now somewhere north of San Diego, in the beach anyway. Anyone there??

Hand in hand with...

Topi with Ray Campi at Burbank, Joe's American Bar and Grill.

-boys of the bleaches-

By yfreak57 - 13 Years Ago
Altered frame went to powder coating yesterday morning. Coming back after a week or so. Then some "rebuilding"... Wink

By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
I was wondering if you have any concerns about creating lift with the scoop on the front.  I do like you style! Keep the faith.
By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
You guys have done some great work being so far from a race parts house. I am sure the flame will be turned up on the work now that you can see how close you are.
By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
Maybe one day you could write and article on how it all works, for us gray headed, non-EFI guys.  I for one would be very interested in learning how it works.
By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
Thanks for the explanation, fuel injected turbos are the way to make lots of streetable horsepower as demonstrated by this years HOT ROD drag week. Larry Larson's twin turbo Nova traveled 1200 miles on the highway and ran a 6.95 @ 209  at the track on 87 octane gas.  That may be on the edge, but a streetable, 10 second twin turbocharged Y-block car might be possible if you could get the head gaskets to live. It will be interesting how fast the altered will go, keep us posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH-y2mxYS6c 

By glrbird - 13 Years Ago
Have you seen "Saturday night Fever". nice dance moves!
By glrbird - 13 Years Ago
Maybe you need an aircondition the garage for just such emergencies.
By LON - 15 Years Ago
Frank

"Loonies from Down Under " ??? I resemble that remark .

Can you imagine that ,Kiwis,Canadians,Poms,Fins & Aussies .Is America ready for that  ???Wonder if we could buy the Super 8 at Heath .It maybe cheaper than the repair bill .

Lon

By LON - 15 Years Ago
Charlie,

Yes ,it does mean I agree . I guess I  am showing my age ???. It's an old "one liner " from the "Three Stooges ".That was in the old days of black & white TV and before political correctness .I think that most of the re-runs of The Three Stooges have been banned ???

Lon

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Hey, if someone has wondered why I have been so quiet lately, here is an answer. I've been busy and waiting to get our new " pig " to the grill and to make it go around and to be barbequed... BigGrin.

And now it is quite easy to flip over, finally...

Oh, and never mind to ask, it'll have a turbocharged Y on it w00t!

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Bill, you need to find us a sponsor ( a big one ) and we will come to Columbus Tongue ! Otherwise it won't be ready for this summer. Target is to get it running for the next season. Wait until that Smile.
By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Yesterday I was welding the frame, and today we were restoring the Hollow Machine at Jyrki's garage to get it ready for the Finnish Ford Nationals event. This time nothing serious on wheels. We put in Jyrki's old 3-speed with  our old reliable test bench 272 engine and we up graded the fuel delivery to a dual carb setup. Nostalgia looks, more show than go Tongue. But, that will be a good tow machine for the dragster next year BigGrin So, book us two car places if you find a real hardcore Y-block ferry....

Oh, it's so hard to be on holidays Cool. Can't wait to get back to work and to do more welding job for the frame...

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Eeeh... Smile! I'm glad that I'm just plain semi-old citizen from Finland made by all finnish parents BigGrin.

Ok, my father was born on area which used to be ours before WWII, but now belongs to Russia Angry

Conclusion: Being a Y-blocker, doesn't make you better or worse person, just a half nuts BigGrinBigGrinBigGrin!

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Is Vegemite really meant for eating? I once opened one tube and thought it was some kind of a window sealer BigGrinBigGrin. Well, sure I tasted it and it almost came back up again...

Hmmm, we had two aussies ( my wifes exchange parents from Brisbane over 20 years ago) visiting us last christmas and I wondered why they didn't like our "Turun Sinappi" mustard w00t.

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Reed... seems to me that you are a H.A.M.B.er too BigGrin What a great topic that Drag Cars in motion...!!! Over 600 pages of old Drag Race things.

We are building that chassis with Mark Williams drawings on the wall. Hard tail altered / funny car specs from 1999. It's a mild steel chassis. Engine that will be is our twin turbo efi Y-block 292. Wilcap adapter to Powerglide with short planetary and some home build 9" rearend with 4.56 gears to start with. 33" slicks and then some boost (big time w00t this time) on top of it. Jep... that's our plan...

Dream?  To beat that old 8.15 record of course BigGrinBigGrin. Will it ever happen - who knows!

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
What? For the whole engine? Well, that would not be very aerodynamic BigGrin.

The one who scares, won't be driving that one anyhow. Jyrki already has experience about oil and water coming to his helmet, so what else could come....Wink.

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Exhaust pipes done!

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Well, let's hope those won't blow oil under the slicks BigGrin.
By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Yesterday I got all the charge air pipes done and today I have to do the oil return lines and i have to modify pair of fuel lines from the fuel regulator... Meanwhile Simo is redoing the fuel maps for larger turbos and bigger fuel injectors...

Those blue ones? They are the new Blow of valves...

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Man, I just like cooking BigGrin. And I love my gas grill!

Our new copper head gaskets needed to be softened, so I put them to my grill while waiting it to be warm enough for my sausages...

The recipe was to heat them until colour turns to cherry red and so it did...

So then I dipped them to water container... Really don't know was this the right method but then it was time to cook some evening meal BigGrin.

So, tomorrow I will put those gaskets between the block and the heads and check the piston to valve clearance etc. Our next race is 30th of June, so please keep your thumbs up to make us get the engine ready for that w00t.

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Ahaa.. you mean Female Body Inspectors BigGrin?
By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Jep, now we have twins in da house! w00t

And my hollow head is full of ideas how to install those to our dragster...

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
BigGrin That valve cover is there just to give some measurement of the twins... Wink 
By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Something done, lot's to be done. Smile

Modified left turbo mount.

Trial fit.

Jeah, those will be a bit too high, but I'll make new headers later with more time. First race this season will be in 19th of May, so... But, sure everyone will notice those at the races w00t.

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
Got something done today too...

Attachment parts for turbos with two Lambda sensor holes to each.

The plan...

... just like I planned Smile.

See the yellow y-blocksforever.com bag on the wall? Jim gave it to me when he was first time visiting us here in Finland.

By Hollow Head - 12 Years Ago
I spent four hours in the garage today and now we just have to modify our oil feed and return lines and some small modifications to charge air pipes. Our new bottom end is still in progress though...

Sure hope nothing explodes in front of the driver w00t...

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Gray is our color BigGrin.

Looks a lot better now. Smile

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Tim, we are not in a hurry right now and I just opened another beer can. We are having an extremely hot period here in Finland and we have to drink alot to keep us alive BigGrin.  Well, this heat may not be nothing to you there in the states or in Australia, but we are truly not used to this. But we will survive, six pack on the right side and another on the left side to keep our throats wet...
By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Ups, have forgotten to update this topic. Dragster is done and it's been on the track for eight runs. Goes straight and so far best time is 11,818 with problems to hold the car at stand still cause transbrake didn't work properly. Reason was false setting of the shift cable.

Me walking and yfreak57 driving Wink.

Now we are waiting for new con rods and pistons to make the engine last longer under boost w00t

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
So, is this Christmas w00t?

Now we are just waiting for Ted to fab the main girdle for us....Wink.

And to earn some more money to buy two more flowing turbos BigGrin.

Well, the radiator frame needs to be modified to fit also...

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
We will still use the scoop and intercooler under it. It seems to work ok and as the cooler is made for two inlets and two outlets,we don't even need to change it. Of course it could be made of thicker core, but we'll go with that now. Intercooling and specially dimensions of pipes and their shape inside of the cooler is very scientific, but as usual, limited space and limited funds make us use what we can Wink.

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Simoooo.... ours is not a FED w00t!!! It's altered. FEDs have the rear axle in front of ass and altereds have it behind the ass.... BigGrin Tim is the one who has FED.
By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Pics from the event...

http://blackbird90sc.pictures.fi/kuvat/Ford+Nationals+2011+sunday/

a lot more w00t

http://tulilanka.pic.fi/kuvat/Others/Ford%20Nationals%202011/

Enjoy!

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
And a short video of that 3rd run. Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAD4Zu6Uhhk

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Today, after Jyrki came to our place, we had a tornado in my garage w00t. 3 and a half hours later the dragster looked like a crap again. Now it's time to paint the frame and we took everything off the frame. Exept the engine, which I have to remove tomorrow.

Something like gray it's going to be... Wink

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Jep, but now we know that it works and we have no need to add any brackets or else to it. Well, we will put a fiberclass radiator shell over the radiator to make it look more like a T-23 BigGrin
By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Damn, I forgot that data recording thing. Simo, what is the size of that palm device? And try to record something from your car so we know it works...w00t Anyway, we have to add it under the apparatus (An integrated group of materials or devices used for a particular purpose) plate.

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Carson, thanks for your comment and warning. At the moment we have neck collar to use and the head cage is wrapped with sfi spec paddings. HANS will be required here in Finland from start of 2012 in drag racing, so that will be on shopping list then. However, if the things go bad, it's not about the way how your head is protected from outside. Impacts inside of head are also violent if you experience lots of G forces when rolling down the track and in reality, you can't do much to that. Brains just are not for using as a boxing bag... And anyway, if life is meant to be spend sitting home alone, is it worh anything. I'd rather experience something wild and loud. Wink

BTW Carson, do you have any outings left for this year with '54?

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
I have no clue about how it works BigGrin. Ok, brains give the injectors order to keep themselves open for some time and fuel pressure behind them gives a spray of fuel to intake runners Smile.

Simo (aka LordMrFord ) knows better why and how this happens. Long story short, it just works, it's accurate and gives us a lots of opportunitys to improve our performance...

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Slowly getting back to business Wink. We should get that thing to FHRA American Car Show next weekend. Electrics still missing and those intercooler tubes interfere badly with that nose part. I have to slice and remake it totally, but that will happen after the show.

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago

Jyrki from Finland

And me wearing Jyrkis 3.2A/15 racing gears.

So, we are almost ready for July 9th... w00t

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Jep, but I like "Dirty Dancing" more...BigGrin
By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Hey... it runs! w00t

Water hoses still not connected and frame not painted + some small issues to solve, but feeling ok now BigGrin Going for some beers now BigGrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ea_uOUY2U

By Hollow Head - 13 Years Ago
Jihaa!! First runs done.

Jyrki at Line Up.

Sooo excited before first run BigGrin

Ooops... Turbo inhaled that air cleaner! Should have removed it before the run Wink

We got only three runs and then...

We got our socks wet... badly! We hadn't even enough time to take dragster under the tent. It came so quickly and hard.

The times? Who cares.... First as a shake down run - 14,714 / 112,78 km/h.

Second - 12,744 / 163,79 km/h and third as a best - 11,926 / 184,05 km/h.

And Jyrki said he wasn't pushing flat out at that last either. Car went straight without any wobbling at the front end. Boost pressure was 0.7 bar at that last one.

With couple of more runs, we would have gone to 10s Wink

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
More issues today, so engine still sits on the floor. Rear engine plate interfered with the dizzy, so I had to make more room for it. Flexplate bolts are too short and converter bolts are missing too, so more shopping tomorrow. And one of tomorrows tasks is installing of that CSR billet water pump... But, for some light in the darkness is that the scoop will be painted tomorrow too BigGrin.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
BigGrin As you are now there, remember to buy yourself a decent safety gear for to drive a Drag lisence at SM finals BigGrin. No Impact but something similar.
By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
I raised my hands Smile! I have to give up the dream to race 10th of July at Alastaro. Too much work to do in so little time. But I tried hard Wink. And I don't want to do to track with the car with so many questions and couple of safety risks. Safety loop is still at the drawing board and etc...

Sorry guys, but two hands is not enough Smile. Looks awesome, though?

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
And tomorrow begins my vacation! A whole month off from work, so dragster sits in a storage that time. Focusing for the next season, two bigger turbos, eight bigger injectors and much more power BigGrin

So, tomorrow I will head to Ford Nationals 2010 without anything to drive, so I only have to keep my throat wet and video cam in my hand... w00t

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Slowly getting back on working with Dragster Smile. Yesterday I made a towing device. BigGrin

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Jeah, why not BigGrin.

Here is some more... Intercooler for two turbos. Made from one VW Tuareg intercooler, two Mercedes-Benz coolers and from some sheet metal. Cost? Freebie, just some welding and bending was required.

And then the Brain headquarter for Megasquirt. Fast release tray for those boxes to be serviced quickly if needed.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago

Approaching, but not landed yet Wink Now the roll gage interferes with opening cause we added that two inches to the shoulder hoop to clear us in. More grinding and cutting tomorrow Smile.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Jep, that is about the place it will be. It pushes air through two fans and through intercooler to cool down the charge air. BigGrin
By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Today I was quite productive BigGrin. And Jyrki got him inside of the body too.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Just a little progress today. Body sits nicely over the frame now and chute and related parts are there. Instrument panel in progress, front clip in progress etc... I hope that we get the body painted next week w00t.

But now it's time to have some whiskey, cause it's time to celebrate finnish bonfire festivals BigGrin.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
charliemccraney (6/24/2010)
You should glue the beer bottle to the back.

Why? It's kinda hard to drink it empty, if it's clued to the body BigGrin. Ok, we have used empty cans as a overflow tanks, but I have heard that it's not NHRA legal way Wink.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Week to go and things are like this! Missing electrics, fuel lines, throttle cable and thousand other things Smile. But, I have not given up yet to race 10th of July at Alastaro Circuit.

It just takes some swet and patience to finish everything before the GO signal BigGrin.

But, now it's time to go to ZZ Top concert here in Finland and to listen old heroes and Monday is the day to make some progress... w00t

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Well, now we have our Scoop to catch some bugs BigGrin. We don't need this to guide air to our engine, but...Wink

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Slow progress without body...Angry.

Yes, the scoop will be on top of the intercooler, which fills the area between front tyres.

Hope we will ge the body soon or then we have to change our schedule w00t.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Wilwoods are waiting for new rotor hats, front end is waiting for Draglite front wheels, chassis is waiting for a body... Us? Waiting for the summer... Keep waiting Tim, july is ahead and there's still lot's of time to do things. Things do take some time to happen but miracles takes some more time... you know?

Drums are for making music, discs are for playing it BigGrin. Also for stopping race cars. Cool

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Jeah, but if you think about weight of the Y and our heavy mild steel frame, I'm not afraid about lifting issues. And we will ad two fans also to keep temperatures low at the staging line with the intercooler and they will be pushing air down too. And if this thing ever lifts wheels we sure will make some wheelie bars to it BigGrin.
By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Today we got our thing on four wheels for the first time. Great moment BigGrin. July 10th is closer every day and our fiberglass body is still yet to come from container...

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Mocking started... BigGrin Lots of issues. Wheel clearance etc... But it is doable Wink

Busy day tomorrow....w00t!

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Tim, we have allmost all parts from Chassis Shop.

C42-390 Stiletto Steering box with splined coupler and pitman arm.

C42-454 Spindle set, Anglia style with C42-457 5" steering arms. 

One extra 5" long steering arm to change the direction of the movement.

C42-590 Billet Wheel hubs with three bolt patterns.

C42-592 Bearings & seals.

C42-624 Dust Caps.

C42-487 Steering Wheel with black grips.

C42-036 Steering shaft kit, includes two tubes, quick release steering hub, two nylon bushings, two bushing sleeves, slined coupler, anti push back sleeve.

We also bought C42-543 control lever for using the brakes, but we decided to operate brakes with foot, so that lever may find it's way to be used as a chute release handle w00t.

Also we have that three bar front end kit from Chassis Shop, but I quess you will be using front axle? I think you can also use their rack-n-pinion steering with u-joints. Rack is half the price of that funny car steering box.

Pro-Werks is the brand that they sell. And so far all parts have been excellent quality.

www.chassisshop.com Go there and drool BigGrin

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Safety first!

Drag Harness with arm straps and transmission shields arrived yesterday Smile.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Good to see that others get great progress with their projects ( Charlie, Tim & Glen ).

We just got the order through to US Body and it takes about 12 weeks to get that Altered Wedge up here north. Eight weeks to fabricate it and about four to ship it. So, we have to focus on other things meanwhile Angry Without body, it's hard to tell what fits where and how all the parts should be done. I know... we could have ordered that body earlier, but...

Well, there is lots of things to do....

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
I finally got a message from Texas and our body is ready and waiting for a shipping to Finland. Smile Five weeks or so to have it here.... Can't hardly wait w00t. Well, chute and chute release handle are also on their way up here and more little pits and pieces. Lot's of time until July 10th...Cool and www.fordnationals.net
By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
Today we got our radiator from Griffin radiators Smile. Some brackets and final positioning and that's it! Hopefully next week comes with more progress when we get our rearend from welder and also other small parts will land to Finland. But, still waiting for the fiberglass body...

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
And today we got our rear axle housing from welder. This should be strong enough BigGrin.

No, we're not going to use that carrier. Strange alu case is on the way with axles etc...

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Thank's Moonshadow. We'll give some thoughts to that cover also. Seems to me that we have Christmas here every now and then Smile. (Maybe, because Santa lives so close to us Wink)

Now we got delivery from Chassis Shop and from Mark Williams.

Something to build an A-arm front suspension and to get the steering wheel hooked with quick release hub.

The upper one is Mark Williams Jig fixture for getting the spindles to correct height and to decent caster and camber angle. Tubes are for building the steering shafts.

Unfortunately Strange doesn't sell it's cheap Funny Car steering box anymore, so we had to order one from Chassis Shop. It might be up here in Finland 8th of December. New Christmas is coming again... BigGrin.

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Well things were going to the right direction, but weekend came and stopped the progress Angry. Can't wait to get back to work BigGrin. Or the place were I work...Wink

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago

More motivation pics. And this is with Y.

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Santa just dropped us two skinny Front Runners today. A whole day before Christmas, so he must have been on his way to Australia with a hurry BigGrin !

Yesterday I got some progress with installing the shifter and the steering box to our chassis. Not completely, but so and there...Wink.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
More welding done, more to weld... Smile Front A-arms in progress and steering box and butterfly in it's place. Steering is made so that it can be removed quickly by removing five bolts and lifting that all away.

By Hollow Head - 14 Years Ago
No '59 or even '57 steering wheel this time. So, Simo you can sleep your nights tight. We're not going to steal your wheel for that project Wink.
By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Reed, here is some more fuel for your fire. Don't know whose this is and don't even know how it looked when finished, but it sure is Y-block mock up BigGrin

Have fun... Wink

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
No huge progress so far, but today we got rear tyres for our dragster. Also PG with transbrake is purchased and Wilcap adapter is ordered. Question for Ted: What kind of spindles do you have and which front wheels? Spindle mount or with five lugs? What is your suggestion?

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Thank's Ted. I'll check what Strange has and I all ready know what MW has. There might not be big difference in prices, but we'll see... Smile
By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago

Powerglide has finally found it's way behind the Y. Wilcap adapter is a high quality piece, but still needed some grinding to be able to work with Mopar mini starter. And some grinding had to be done to Powerglide too BigGrin.

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Ted, things are just the way you thought. Only problem at the moment is that because of that 6mm thick engine rear plate, we have to use either 6mm spacer with that wilcap spacer or we have to make a new one.

Here is couple of pictures about what was needed to make that starter work.

Wilcap adapter.

This is the view through starter hole at the adapter. Huge bump must be removed from Powerglides bellhousing.

This is how it looks afterwards. I had to grind over 1 inch deep to make that starter gear clear that housing. But, I think that doesn't make it too weak anyhow.

Starter housing interferes with one positioning pin at the adapter, so I had to grind some material off the housing.

From there...

And now it fits, but we have to lower the engine for couple of millimeters because the starter hits the frame tube. Not a good thing...w00t.

By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
Well... yes and no. We don't have a crank in that mock up engine, so we don't know the actual position of the flexplate versus starter gear. And I assume that Wilcap has measured it so that it's ok at the center position. Also, I all ready had to open up the hole for the starter gear to make it spin freely. Upper attchment hole is tight and the lower has some space to move it a little bit sideways, but moving from the lower hole doesn't give us much more clearance. After we have that taller spacer, we can check it out. Lowering the engine is easy, just grinding some material off of the engine plates. We just have to double check the lining with rearend before doing anything stupid w00t.
By LordMrFord - 14 Years Ago
So...no huge '59 Ford steering wheel anymore?
By LordMrFord - 14 Years Ago
Im jealous. I got no Whiskey and Dragsters in my workyard.
By LordMrFord - 14 Years Ago
Pressure sensor reads the manifold vacuum(or pressure) and RPM is taken from coil minus(somewhere else like crank trigger).

Injectors injects two or four time per engine round and 12x12 map tells how long injectors are open (~2-25 milliseconds).

You can also run in closed loop, when lambda (oxygen sensor in exhaust) corrects air/fuel-ratio.

There are manifold and coolant temperature sensors which also corrects ratio.

So MAP(Manifold Air Pressure)/RPM is most used and easiest way to control fuel.

Ford ('89 and up) uses MAF(Manifold Air Flow/RPM to get same results.



Ignition samelike, but easier.

It also reads MAP and RPM and is corrected by (a little) temp sensors. When we use spark throwing lottery machine called Distributor, it needs only RPM (like coil - or crank trigger or four 6mm bolts on damper), control box like Megasquirt, what tells when spark is throwed, ignition module (MSD, Crane HI-6, some Bosch....) to drive coil(Megasquirt II dont need modules) and coils and plugs.

When we don't use Dizzy, we need Crank Trigger to tell us, in what position engine internals are and multiple ignition modules.
By LordMrFord - 14 Years Ago
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Stock Y-Block ignition map with a little high cruising speed advance.



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Some Megasquirt wiring diagram, I dont remember what motor that was.



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Ignition module modded on MS, Y Crank Trigger, some Renault coils and my mushroom valley.
By LordMrFord - 14 Years Ago
In that ignition map, 100 kpa is throttle wide open, when manifold got pressure is same as outside.

kpa 5 is very hard engine braking position, when manifold got max vacuum(smileyface).

When we go kpa 100 and above, then speedo needle goes southeast.
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
Next time we see how Turbo-Y holds about 6200 rpm.

Red line was now 5500 and it was way too low with that rear gear.
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
...I talked about FBI-guys.
By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
Jyrki needs a bulletproof combat helmet with windshiels wipers or he might get a bigger hole in his head, if turbos gonna explode.BigGrin
By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
Hollow Head (4/30/2012)
Well, let's hope those won't blow oil under the slicks BigGrin.




Atleast Jyrki get mighty burnouts with fancy blue smoke.Smile
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
Hollow Head (7/14/2011)
Jep, but now we know that it works and we have no need to add any brackets or else to it.




Remember the bracket for computer...



Actually, I have one old Palm handdevice what maybe can take some log. It's much smaller than laptop.
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
Size is like big cell phone.





Hollow Head (7/14/2011)
And try to record something from your car so we know it works...:w00t




This sounds like bad excuse, but i lost my keys about couple weeks ago.










By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
Mini laptop would be nice, but I hope MS got tuning software on cell phone in near future. I think Iphone got it already.

There is some SD car datalogger expansions out there and MS3 got it build inside, but maybe we can wait.



Some guys got WLAN and Bluetooth systems already, so there will be time when we can tune Y-Block at other side of planet.

How cool is that...maybe none, but makes things easier.
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
Rusty rat look was nice too.
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
But can we still have those sixpacks?



By the way... I got pack of swedish beer named Pistonhead. Perfect cooler for garages.



http://www.beersweden.se/archives/3375
By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
MoonShadow (12/17/2011)
It makes the car very unique and easy to spot.




FEDs are always easy to spot in Finland. Here are not too many of them.
By Ketterbros - 14 Years Ago
Looking good, sure would like to see your car run here in Crandle TX..or Royce City TX..

Admiration from Texas..

By Ketterbros - 13 Years Ago
Good luck, watching this with great appriciation..
By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
Loonie's, Canuck's, Finn's, maybe if we get some englishmen and that guy from Venezuala (who has some nice stuff). There could really be some international competitions. As long as this "Mainiac" doesn't show up in a Taurus again.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
LON, loonies??? you havent told frank of the "atomic wedgie" perfected by us loonies. ha ha. regards aussiebill.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
LON, are you really Larry, Moe, Shemp or Curly? i thinks Shemp!!  Frank i,ll leave it up to you to decide. ha ha.  Regards aussiebill.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
Steve, just had my regular Vegemite and cheese on toast for brekkie, yum yum! is your mate in singleton a yblocker? i live about an 70 mins away. Ohhh i,m feeling woosey, better have some more vegemite!! Steve, i think we ALL really enjoy your wealth of knowledge and experience in the electrical field. Thank you.  regards aussie bill.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
Ted, i,m great fan of the 57 ford and love your new 57 project, i was fortunate to watch Norm Wizner race his fabulous Jukebox Ford years back, your body looks identical. I have a friend in CA with radical 57 h,top, full race safty roll cage, corvette front end and blown Y Block, 5 speed, it is almost completed and is 10/10 for workmanship and finish. I have 57 ranchero, 292, O/D and VS57, nearing completion.  Love the hoosier hurricane!! Best regards bill.
By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
glrbird (7/22/2011)
Maybe you need an aircondition the garage for just such emergencies.

Or bigger fridge!Smile

By 55Birdman - 15 Years Ago
Those Aussies are descendents of British prisoners. Remember Botany Bay?
By 55Birdman - 15 Years Ago
Only reason I know about Botany Bay is I saw a movie on TV about it with Alan Ladd. As long as you are a Y-Blocker the rest dont matter.
By yehaabill - 15 Years Ago
Head Y-Guy      Go ahead, add a couple of "wings" and fly that

                bad boy to Columbus this year!!!!!!!

                                       Bill

By yehaabill - 14 Years Ago
Y-Guy Hollow Head:      You just need to put on a little "Outlaw Country"

                   on "Sat" radio, have an ice cold "sweet tea" (the beverage of the

                   South), turn the cell-phone OFF, and go for it!

                                 Between Ya'll and Tim this forum is going to have

                  and awesome race team!!!(We can't forget Charlie, with the brick,

                  Hoosier, pegleg,Ted and the rest...)

                                             Have a great 4th,

                                                   Bill

The 4th of July, our nation's birthday....

By Carson - 14 Years Ago
Seppo, lookin good piece by piece
By Carson - 14 Years Ago
attention Jyrki + wandering Finnish people

please stop by the ranch if  you are traveling near Los Alamos , Santa Barbara County

and go for a drive in a Mexican Taxi w/ a Y block

carson    tel 805-344-5901

By Carson - 13 Years Ago
Seppo,

sling shot (?) looks very good..

one comment about safety  though is to consider SIDE  protection for drivers head + neck

Hans and other head/neck devices only protect frontal inpact yet alot of drag racing  may involve side to side impact as well

I know one of  John Force's (sp?) drivers was lost from violent side to side motion

enjoy your postings + giddy up , Carson

By Carson - 13 Years Ago
WILD + LOUD in Finland .... livin' da dream ..

we're goin back to ol Mexico for the la Carrera Panamericana with the 1954 Ford 292 this Oct.. This will be my 5th yr in a row in the Original Class. My dughter , Lauren  who was my co-piloto two years ago , will be back in the navigators seat .There is one other Y block entry a beautiful  54 Lincoln Capri in our class. check out www.lacarrerapanamericana.com.mx  and www.lacarrera2007.blogspot.com

Lauren will also blog during the rally

Unfortunatly , it looks like last years Champs "The Finns" + company are not entered up this year .

They will be missed , giddy up , Carson  #433

By Pete's Panel - 15 Years Ago
Convicts ruule!!!Cool
By Moz - 15 Years Ago
loonies from down under frank. bad very bad.
By Moz - 15 Years Ago
frank

while i do have a litlle english blood i also have irish scotish & spanish as well so im a backwards tight ass with a temper lol. only one of my ancestors was a convict & he got sent to tasmania not all of them went to botany bay that was my great great grandfather who im named after actualy im #6 in line.

By Moz - 15 Years Ago
seppo

yep vegimite is for eating we also use it for shoe polish, paint remover, rust inhibitor on panels, hair dye if you've got dark hair & we have competitions to see who can eat the most in one mouthfull. bill was feeling woosey cause if we dont eat it twice a day at least we get sick.

By Reed P - 15 Years Ago
Seppo...



Hey...I am diggin the digger...I have been wanting to build one for a while...glad to see you are working through it, might be a little easier for me later on!



Are you working from some plans, and existing car or just "going for it!" Either way I am very interested in seeing it all come together.



Couple of questions...whats the transmission plan? We need to get the boost turned up where you can run a direct drive....1/4 mile burn-outs rule!



If you need a little help, I'll just jump on a plane and head on over w00t



Now back to talking about the family tree, some wonder bread spread and somehow hair color! LOL...



Here are some pics I have to keep me "motivated" about building one...























































-reed
By Reed P - 15 Years Ago
Yeah, I used to get on the HAMB alot...but tooo big for my tastes now.



The chassis is a really neat thing to think about, all the engineering to make it flex in the right spots, yet stay strong enough to do the job. I do not know alot about it all, but wanna learn real bad.



The FED craze is pretty big over here...dad and I went to the NHRA nostalgia drags in Bowling Green KY last year...hope we can make some more visits in the future.



A really big mentor in my life was Mickey Cox, he ran fuel back in the 60's...only got to know him over 3 years or so...but he got the wheels turning in my head. Just need a little time, some more space and of course some cash-o-la!



When you get ready for the turbochargers...keep me in the loop. I lost my "real" job building the high performance boats, now I am out on my own building turbos again BigGrin and I would love to chat with you on your choice of compressors...you know low 8's is not a big deal HeheHeheBigGrin



-reed
By 57FordPU - 14 Years Ago
Seppo,

There is nothing like making a roller.  Just seeing the project on the ground and to be able to roll it around the shop is a big thing.  Looks awesome, keep up the good work.

Charlie

By 57FordPU - 14 Years Ago
Looks great Seppo, you are doing an awesome job.  I sure am looking forward to hearing (and seeing) about your performance when you are done.  You have my attention with the turbo powered Y-Block.
By 57FordPU - 14 Years Ago
Yes, that is the plan.  Tim has made some engine changes and I am just now buttoning it up.  Tim will also be doing the driving.

We pit at the west end of the lake and behind the staging lanes.  Look for the yellow truck or the Burns Brothers Racing trailer.  It will be great to see you guys.

By 57FordPU - 13 Years Ago
My, my, my.............so exciting!  It sounds great and I hope it meets all your expectations.
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
Seppo, that's the one for me. Wink  I have an idea of building a Y powered '50s style FED someday, this will give me inspiration too. BigGrin
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Seppo,  where did you get your steering box from? and are you happy with the quality?  Also what spindles are you using?  If you mentioned earlier I'm sorry for asking, at the time of this writing I was too tired to read back through the whole thread. Tongue

Thanks!

By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Very nice!  BigGrin
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Wow! that is a pricey looking unit.  Should hold up!  Aluminum carrier from Stange, you guys aren't cutting any corners there.  Very nice indeed. Wink
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Keep the progress coming! Wink
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
What's up with the disc brakes?  Don't you know drums are where it's at! Tongue

Good job, keep going, the payoff is excellent!Wink

By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
Cool! Smile
By mctim64 - 13 Years Ago
Saw the video over on FB.  Good job!  Looks like when it rains it pours. w00t
By mctim64 - 13 Years Ago
Cool!  it's hard to take apart something that looks complete just to paint and re-assemble.  Lots of work. Wink
By mctim64 - 13 Years Ago
It's gonna look great when it's complete. Wink
By mctim64 - 13 Years Ago
Looking good! now you just need to put it all back together and open it up. Wink
By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
Nice lookin' stuff ya got there. BigGrin
By mctim64 - 12 Years Ago
That is some awesome looking stuff you got there! Wink
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Good Job!  BigGrin
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Neat!  Now I want to see it mocked up. Smile
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Looks good!
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Wow!  Looks good!  You are really movin' now. Wink
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
Good looking work!  As expected. Wink
By mctim64 - 14 Years Ago
charliemccraney (12/10/2010)
LordMrFord (12/10/2010)
Pressure sensor reads the manifold vacuum(or pressure)...


It should be noted that the term vacuum is a little misleading, hence pressure in parentheses. A vacuum by definition is a volume of space that is empty, a void. This never happens in an engine. Some people think of it as a negative pressure. This is understandable because many gauges start at zero, which is actually atmospheric pressure, with vacuum on one side of zero and pressure on the other. Logically, if the needle moves in the vacuum direction, it appears to be negative. What we call vacuum is actually a pressure which is less than atmospheric and to my knowledge, our current understanding of physics indicates that a negative pressure is impossible. If a pressure of 12psi is measured in the intake manifold at sea level, we call it a vacuum because it is less than 14.7psi. When it comes to supercharging and turbo charging, either of those devices producing 6psi means that the engine is actually getting 20.7psi. Here again, because of the way the gauges are set up, they will show only 6psi, but it is really 6psi above atmospheric.

Throttle position in an aircraft is read off a "Manifold Pressure Gauge" when the throttle is wide open at sea level on a standard day the gauge should read 29 in. hg.  Usually reads 28 though. Wink

By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
LON (6/25/2009)
Frank



"Loonies from Down Under " ??? I resemble that remark .







Does that mean you agree?? If you resemble something....
By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
Is that where the scoop is going to be placed?
By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
You should glue the beer bottle to the back.
By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
You can always refill it and use a straw.
By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
LordMrFord (12/10/2010)
Pressure sensor reads the manifold vacuum(or pressure)...




It should be noted that the term vacuum is a little misleading, hence pressure in parentheses. A vacuum by definition is a volume of space that is empty, a void. This never happens in an engine. Some people think of it as a negative pressure. This is understandable because many gauges start at zero, which is actually atmospheric pressure, with vacuum on one side of zero and pressure on the other. Logically, if the needle moves in the vacuum direction, it appears to be negative. What we call vacuum is actually a pressure which is less than atmospheric and to my knowledge, our current understanding of physics indicates that a negative pressure is impossible. If a pressure of 12psi is measured in the intake manifold at sea level, we call it a vacuum because it is less than 14.7psi. When it comes to supercharging and turbo charging, either of those devices producing 6psi means that the engine is actually getting 20.7psi. Here again, because of the way the gauges are set up, they will show only 6psi, but it is really 6psi above atmospheric.
By charliemccraney - 13 Years Ago
LordMrFord (7/14/2011)

Actually, I have one old Palm handdevice what maybe can take some log. It's much smaller than laptop.




I use a netbook, pretty much a mini laptop, for data logging my car when I have issues. It is much less cumbersome than a full size laptop but bigger than a Palm.
By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
If that's a serious concern, you can build a shield for it, like a scatter shield for a clutch.
By Jim - 13 Years Ago
Looking GOOD!
By Ted - 15 Years Ago
Seppo.  Great start on what looks to be a very quick ride.  And of course, looking forward to updates as that project comes together.
By Ted - 15 Years Ago
pegleg (7/5/2009)
.....although the name is English, as is Eaton (Ted).
Frank.  I believe I’m an original hybrid.  Mom was blue eyed English and is actually descended from the Sanfords that came over on the Mayflower but Dad was Irish, German, Holland, and maybe English.  The ‘maybe English’ part is the Eaton name and I’ve only been able to track that lineage back to the 1790 census beyond which point I only hit dead ends.  My German ancestry is through the Glenndinning name which migrated to America from Canada in the 1800's.
By Ted - 15 Years Ago
Hollow Head (9/23/2009)
Question for Ted: What kind of spindles do you have and which front wheels? Spindle mount or with five lugs? What is your suggestion?
Both my altered roadster and  fiberglass bodied ’57 Ford have Strange spindles.  The roadster is spindle mount on the wheels while the ’57 is five lug.  I debated on using spindle mount on the ’57 but went with five lug instead simply due to being able to service the wheels and tires without having to contend with the spindle bearings.  I'll add that there was also a better variety of wheel choices for the five lug.  But on a dragster where the weight is a major consideration, then go with the spindle mount wheels of which there are some much smaller sizes being available versus those for the five lug.

By Ted - 15 Years Ago

Seppo.  Does the Wilcap adapter use their own flywheel?  Is there a hub that bolts to the crankshaft to allow the PG converter to adapt?