electric drag racing


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By pintoplumber - 15 Years Ago
Here's a 9 minute video on electric drag racing you might find interesting if you can overlook the trashing on internal combustion engines. I hope this link works.



Let me try this one

http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing

Well, I don't know how to get it to work if you just click on it. But if you take the time to type that all in it will take you there.
By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
I've found some stuff on youtube, too.  They're so weird 'cause they're quiet.
By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
This has to be what is coming, I guess. It just seems nerdy to me cause nothin's blowing up, yet.

I like it in a way, but I have enough trouble with JUST the wiring on my gas powered car.
By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
In my ignorance, I have to ask too, Aren't Batteries considered to be hazardous disposable waste? I mean it can't all be that perfect? And how much does it cost?



(sounding like the old dinosaur that I am)
By pintoplumber - 15 Years Ago
I guess batteries are just a different form of pollution.



It doesn't sound right without the exhaust noise.
By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
The batteries he was using at first are horrible for the environment.  It doesn't billow smoke but 60 batteries is no environment saver.  I don't know how the lithium ion batteries he used at the end are as far as poluion.  And 20-30 minutes to charge is not bad at all.  I'd bet that it is cleaner, overall.  I think it's pretty cool.
By Ted - 15 Years Ago
pintoplumber (1/25/2009)

http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing

Well, I don't know how to get it to work if you just click on it. But if you take the time to type that all in it will take you there.

Dennis.  Putting a space behind pasted in links before doing a hard return will allow the links to work with most browsers.  I’ve fixed yours.

bird55 (1/25/2009)
In my ignorance, I have to ask too, Aren't Batteries considered to be hazardous disposable waste? I mean it can't all be that perfect? And how much does it cost?

Al.  You’re right in that there are some trade offs in using electrics instead of internal combustion but in theory, electric energy has more potential for recyling as far as the batteries go.  But there are also the alternative systems where you simply exchange the discharged liquid electrolyte with recharged electrolyte and go on instead of having to recharge on-board batteries.  Sort of like filling up your car with gasoline except you have to drain the tank first.  The discharged electrolyte simply gets recharged again so it can be used again.  I did see an electric road race car that used the roll cage as part of the liquid electrolyte storage system but wearing a battery acid proof suit in one of these would likely be recommended.

When you get ready to convert your ‘Bird over, the weight saved from removing exhaust system, cooling system, gas tank and related lines can help to compensate for the weight generated from the batteries or liquid electrolyte storage system.  And some other upgrades will have to include better braking and a beefed up suspension to help with the extra battery weight.  For that hot rod sound, use computer generated pre-recorded engine sounds through speakers.  But too many amps on that sound system will end up discharging the batteries quicker.

By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
Gee, I don't know what I was thinking, But I've already had and electric bird.

Had a Ford 6v starter with a 12v car battery. A dimmer switch was used for the accelorator. Instant on and off, reverse and forward. Lots of torque off the line, with little leg room. Tongue





come to think of it it would be cool to have a car with just the whine of the motor, like slot cars when i was a kid.
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
That's pretty cool, but zero emissions?  where does the energy come from to charge the batteries?  Solar?  Coal?  Nuclear?  Tongue
By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
Wow! I was mesmerized by the video. I hope the big 3 have seen this and taken it seriously! Chuck in NH
By Greg D - 15 Years Ago
The batteries when used up in the so called "green" cars will make a larger environmental impact than my 62 has it's entire life. This is a truth the environmentalists won't discuss, they would rather sell their propaganda and point fingers at us.
By PF Arcand - 15 Years Ago
Tim has hit on one of many questions regarding electric powered vehicles. Electric cars were first introduced around 1900 by companies such as Baker Electric.. and they still haven't been perfected!...
By Ted - 15 Years Ago
Paul.  You make it sound like internal combustion powered cars have been perfected.  In the private sector, electric vehicles perform at levels far exceeding those that you see being made by the auto manufacturers themselves.  For that matter, the auto manufacturers are concentrating on hybrid technology and not 100% electric powered.  Given time, almost any technology will see improvements if those improvements are warranted.  In the case of electric powered vehicles, there simply has not been the same emphasis to move the technology forward at a very quick pace simply due to the internal combustion engines being the technology of choice during this particular era.  It would be interesting to see what the daily mode of transportation looks like in another century.  Just some early morning ranting.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
Ted, just thought this might be interesting, some years back while visiting the US we were visiting BILL STROOPES research and development facility, NASCAR workshop  and was given a tour  by himself, just before he passed away months later, he said, have a look at this! you wont see many of these! There was a small white FORD van on a hoist with large cables coming from engine bay and plugged into wall. he told us he was doing r&d on this electric powered van. I dont know if these are buzzing along over there or still being looked at. Regards aussie bill.
By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
There used to be a kit for the old VW Beetles. Motor bolted up to the VW Transaxle. Add a controller for the gas pedal, fill the back seat with lots of batteries (30 years ago), and go. A friend had one of the setups but I lost track of him and it. Always thought that with modern batteries it would be a good runabout in town. Chuck in NH
By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
It just seems so weird without the engine noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsoF1XAaHsY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDHJNG2PngQ

By PF Arcand - 15 Years Ago
Ted: Yes, "perfected" was not my best terminology pick. Maybe "viable' would have been be more appropriate. A side note, in recent years alternate auto power has been a hot subject in auto magazines. And while I no longer subscribe to Car & Driver, a writer that has been in mho, the most informed & lucid on that subject and some other controversial ones, is Patrick Bedard. His editorials on these controversial subject have been about the best I've read..
By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
Here is the Road car i've seen quite a bit about. Very fast and expensive, 1.25 million. Haven't seen it on you tube but I'm sure its there. Sure would be fun to try it.

http://wrightspeed.com/x1.html
By GREENBIRD56 - 15 Years Ago
Did you notice there is no comment made about "range" at full charge? I'd like to drive along behind  - in the Porshe - while we take a 500 mile trip with luggage.............................it would probably be boring for all of the stops to "recharge" - but maybe entertaining in a rainstorm!! Hope the wiring's waterproofed a bit.

The 1500 pound rolling weight of the "slot" car is "heavy" dis-advantage to the sporty cars when judging acceleration. If reduced to the same "fighting weight" both of the piston driven cars would have dusted it. Not much of a useful comparison do you think?

The advantage of a roof and doors would be good even for a little electric commuter car. Do they have a real prototype of a road car?

By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
That is an excellent point. I think I read that the x1 gets about 250 mile per charge which isn't bad at all for the city. Charging on a long trip will be difficult. I wonder how many places will allow you to plug in. It will probably need a gasoline generator which will add to the pollution but not by much. There are a lot of videos on youtube about the Datsun. Maybe the economy is mentioned in one of them.
By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
C'mon you guys -what a you expect for 1.25 million? Wink
By miker - 15 Years Ago
There's really some other issues with high voltage battery applications. On AC, you've got a chance to get out as the current reverses. I spent some time with a 32 volt boat, 4 8D's at 100lbs apiece tied together, and you can't believe the arc thrown off by a dropped wrench. My 48 volt golf cart scares me because of that. When we're dealing with 360 to 480 volt DC cars, I'm going to be looking for a wet suit I fit in, and those shoulder high gloves the vet wears, and a welding helmet. I'll still be scared. And I've worked a lot of 480 volt ac hot.