Not Exactly a Y-block Question - C4 Tranny


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By 55blacktie - Last Month
I'm replacing the Fordomatic in my 55 Tbird with a C4 transmission. I know that the C4 and 57 Tbird speedometer cable and driven gear are the same, unlike those used in 55-56. I know there is precious little space to work in, so I will be installing the cable in the C4 transmission before the engine & transmission are installed.  Here's my question: If I use the C4 speedometer cable & driven gear and install them while the engine and transmission are out of the car, will I need to use a cable angle drive as was used in 55-56? 
By paul2748 - Last Month
When I went to a C4 in my 56 Bird, I installed the engine and trans before installing the speedo cable.  Because of the lack of room, I used an angle drive.  In my opinion, there is not enough room to even use the cable installed directly into the trans as the bend w/b to sharp, but if it would fit  it may rub on the tunnel.  Possibly, it may work.  

Because of the way the angle drive is made, I had to get a custom cable .  The cable end for the angle drive had the same type of connector as the end for the speedo.
By 55blacktie - Last Month
paul2748 (7/1/2026)
When I went to a C4 in my 56 Bird, I installed the engine and trans before installing the speedo cable.  Because of the lack of room, I used an angle drive.  In my opinion, there is not enough room to even use the cable installed directly into the trans as the bend w/b to sharp, but if it would fit  it may rub on the tunnel.  Possibly, it may work.  

Because of the way the angle drive is made, I had to get a custom cable .  The cable end for the angle drive had the same type of connector as the end for the speedo.


Did you use the original Fordomatic angle drive & driven gear? Source for custom cable?

Thanks.
By paul2748 - 3 Weeks Ago
No I did not use the stock (56)  original angle drive because the trans end is completely different than a C4.  I don't know if the 57 used an angle drive.  57 had the later trans end.  Maybe something to look into.

55blacktie (7/1/2026)
Did you use the original Fordomatic angle drive & driven gear? Source for custom cable?

Thanks.


By 55blacktie - 3 Weeks Ago
There was a discussion about this four years ago.(Tremec T-5 Install in Thunderbird). dbird installed a C4 in his 55 Bird, using a first-generation Falcon speedometer cable (same as early Mustang & 57 Tbird). No angle-drive or hole-cutting required to make it work. 

Time flies, but memories fade. 
By paul2748 - 3 Weeks Ago
Never having worked with a T5, I don't know if it is thinner than a C4.  It may work w/o an angle drive but it is really tight in the tunnel and I didn't want to bend the cable that much.

55blacktie (7/4/2026)
There was a discussion about this four years ago.(Tremec T-5 Install in Thunderbird). dbird installed a C4 in his 55 Bird, using a first-generation Falcon speedometer cable (same as early Mustang & 57 Tbird). No angle-drive or hole-cutting required to make it work. 

Time flies, but memories fade. 


By 55blacktie - 3 Weeks Ago
paul2748 (7/4/2026)
Never having worked with a T5, I don't know if it is thinner than a C4. 

You have to read Dbird comment for 55 Tbird with C4 transmission, not just the title subject.

55blacktie (7/4/2026)
There was a discussion about this four years ago.(Tremec T-5 Install in Thunderbird). dbird installed a C4 in his 55 Bird, using a first-generation Falcon speedometer cable (same as early Mustang & 57 Tbird). No angle-drive or hole-cutting required to make it work. 

Time flies, but memories fade.