Wiring neutral safety switch

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By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

I have a 1955 Ford Victoria with Dakota digital dash and wiring. I have the Neutral safety switch but net to know which wire I cut and run to the switch? Thanks for any help. Jerry

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Are You using the Original Switch on the Steering Column or?

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

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Yes I am I think here is a picture of it. Thanks Jerry

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1956-56-FORD-FAIRLANE-WIRING-NEUTRAL-SAFETY-SWITCH-NEW/191809894475

Does it currently start in any Gearshift Position? There is a Red Wire from "Start" Terminal on Ignition Switch. Comes out the Firewall where the Rubber is surrounded by a Metal Ring. Its probably plugged together with another Red Wire that goes over to "S" Position on the Solenoid on Fenderwell. Thats how it is wired for Standard Transmission where no Switch is used. You need the Wring shown above to run the Red Wire to the Neutral Switch. It Plugs into each end of the Red Wire now plugged together. Terminals go on 2 of the Terminals on Neutral Switch.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

OK I think I got it oh by the way I have an automatic transmission. But you are saying use the solenoid wire that goes to the ignition switch. And yes it will start in any gear. Thanks

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

On a Standard they don't have Neutral Switch. That Small Harness on Ebay is not used. Where that Harness plugs in is joined together so Current goes through to Solenoid. The Spade Terminal Ends of small Harness plug onto Switch. Bullet ends plug into Harness which is now likely plugged together which is why it starts in any Gear like a Standard Transmission would. The Part # for the 1955 Switch wiring Harness is different that 1956. Switch end is the same. The Bullet end may be different for 55. You may have to change a Terminal where it plugs into main Harness near Firewall if You buy the Harness on Ebay. The Screws to hold the Switch to Bracket on Steering Column are #8-32 1/4" Long..

By DryLakesRacer - 4 Years Ago

The device shown above is for neutral start and back up lights on my 56 with an automatic. All 4 are the spade type. 2 are red for the start and 2 black in another loom for the back up lights.
The previous owner of mine add another switch, attached to one of the 1/4” nuts to allow it to start in park by it closing when it hit the swing arm you see on the shown device when up in the “park” position. Ford automatics only started in neutral. Today it also serves as a theft device since people don’t have a clue. I removed the added switch.

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

DryLakesRacer (5/2/2020)

Interesting. I have never seen a Switch with all Spade Terminals The '58 Switch is interchangeable and Starts in Park and Neutral and it also has 2 Spade and 2 Bullet Terminals..

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

OK thanks to everyone.

By DryLakesRacer - 4 Years Ago

Oldcarmark... my eyes told a lie... 2 spades for red neutral and 2 bullets for the black backup lights. The connectors are not original as you can see.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

Every time I see one hooked up it is with a muffler (U clamp) around a signal round tube. On my 1955 Ford there are 2 tubes one is 1.5" and the other is .5" with the nob that rotates. I have made a picture of a cut away view. it is difficult to get a U clamp around both and not interfere with the rotation of the small pipe. Is my car column normal or not. Thanks Jerry

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By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Do You have the original Bracket that the switch bolts to as shown in previous Post Picture? It has a small piece sticking out that locates the Bracket correctly on the bigger Pipe to support the end of shifter tube? Its a bit of a "B" to get it on position properly and held in place by the clamp.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

No all I have is the 2 tubes running down to the floor and the smaller tube rotates as you shit the gears and at the bottom of the small tube is the kind of a triangle with the knob or pointer sticking up about an inch.

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Can You post a Picture of what You have? Sounds like something not Original.

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Here is a Picture of what You should have originally. The 7209 is small round Shift Tube. The 7317 Bracket supports the end of the Shifter Tube as well as the Switch attached to it. You can see in picture that the 7317 Bracket fits into the Large Steering Column Tube. 2 slots in the Column Tube..

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By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

I can do that but it will be Wednesday before I am back at the shop to take a picture. Thanks

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Here is a Picture of the 1955 Setup. Similar to 1956 shown in previous Picture.

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By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

NO it does not look like either. It look like 2 tubes running down from the steering wheel to the floor with the large one(1.5") on the bottom and the smaller one(.5") on top and at the end of the small one 1 to 2 inches from the floor is the mechanism to turn the switch. I will take a picture on Wednesday Thanks for the help.

By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

I am interested to see what yours looks like. Post a Couple of Pictures when You can.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

OK no problem. Thanks Jerry

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

Here are a couple pictures of the steering column.

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By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Those Pictures appear to Me to be inside the Car? I don't recognize anything except the Brake Pedal and Master Cylinder Push Rod. It looks to Me like Someone has really made a mess of the Steering Column.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

Yes that is the inside of the car did you want a picture from the firewall.

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

Here are a couple picture from the firewall.

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By oldcarmark - 4 Years Ago

Now I can see what has happened. The Steering Box has been replaced with a late model Power Steering Box which means you can not use the Original Neutral Switch. I don't have anything to suggest how to hookup a Neutral Switch. Maybe someone else has a suggestion. How do You operate the Transmission? Floorshift?

By albjerryg - 4 Years Ago

The auto transmission is operated by the shift on the steering column. I can hook up a micro switch for the backup lights I think The smaller tube on the steering column is the one that operates the shifting and has the triangle with the nub on the bottom.