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By Cliff - 4 Years Ago Hi, I just bought this cam in the photo, what do you guys think? By blocky - 4 Years Ago hard to tell on the pics but looks ok good luck By Oldmics - 4 Years Ago If the box info is correct then you know both of them are Phase 2 grinds. I dont know why they would have 2 X 4  on the box ??? Measure them to see what you actually have Oldmics