E Code Valley Pan


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By Daniel Jessup - 5 Years Ago
I have acquired a 57 E code intake manifold but am fully aware that I need a valley pan to match. Are there any repop valley pans that will work? I see a lot of aluminum pans for sale but it's not quite clear and I think the pan needs to have a "dish" in order to work, correct?

I am not looking for an original E code pan (but maybe someone might have one for sale?), but would like to know if there are some alternatives.

does anyone have some photos/videos of modifying a regular pan?

thanks!
By charliemccraney - 5 Years Ago
From what I understand, simply a flat sheet of aluminum or steel will work.

Rexhp offer one that is supposed to fit, http://www.rexhp.com/valleycovers.html.
By Ted - 5 Years Ago
Here are a couple of pictures of a modified stock valley cover that worked well with both the 1956 and 1957 dual quad intakes.  This was used during the extensive dual quad intake testing performed on the dyno mule with both iron and aluminum heads.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b93e46c8-3972-44a1-a463-8d1c.jpg 

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By KULTULZ - 5 Years Ago
This is the only finned valley cover that fits all intakes including the FORD dual quad intake. If you own a stock FORD dual quad intake, you already know that the the stock steel valley cover that goes with the intake is different from the rest. It has a large dish in it to clear the bottom of the intake. Our finned valley cover is the only one that has a dish designed  into it to clear the bottom of the intake


Only the 1957 DUAL QUAD INTAKE requires the extra clearance (as far as I know) to allow greater cooling under the intake due to it's larger runner sizes. That is the reason you see them with bottom side heat damage and repair.

That being said, it seems to me (IMO) it would benefit any performance FYB engine as it will allow more airflow under the intake possibly giving a cooler fuel charge.
By Oldmics - 5 Years Ago
Just listed an original "E" Code valley pan in classified if interested.

Oldmics
By Daniel Jessup - 5 Years Ago
thank you fellas, this gives me a little to chew on
By Genuinerod - 5 Years Ago
Concours Parts sells a replacement valley pan (6519-R) for "E" models for $120.00.
By famdoc3 - 5 Years Ago
I have the Rex valley pan on mine and it clears well
By Daniel Jessup - 5 Years Ago
Fellas - I appreciate that information and the good leads. Very good to know - that's one of the main reasons I keep coming back here! I did get a phone call yesterday from Missouri that I am trying to track down... will let you know how that pans out.

Genuinerod (10/30/2019)
Concours Parts sells a replacement valley pan (6519-R) for "E" models for $120.00.


Thanks - this seems like the best option thus far since this is not an OEM restoration item I am seeking, and I don't know how comfortable I feel in making the modification that Ted made to his - maybe if I had more welding experience.
By NoShortcuts - 5 Years Ago
Dan.  Here's another E code valley pan.  Not inexpensive, but supplier stands by it being as good in detail as any Ford original piece! 

IF you need any Ford 'Bird or passenger car '57 dual quad fuel lines, carburetor choke air intake or heat tubes, or throttle linkage components, seller makes reproduction components.

Click the link below for the eBay listing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Ford-Thunderbird-Dual-Quad-VALLEY-PAN-Assembl/223351427371?hash=item3400c8512b:g:3PoAAOSwCjpcUL9M

Hope this helps!  Smile
By NoShortcuts - 5 Years Ago
Dan.  I just saw this new y-block valley pan offering on eBay Motors.  Unique in that it is from Blue Thunder, is cast aluminum, has provision for a PCV set-up, AND appears that it would be contour-free to clear your '57 Ford E code 2x4 intake manifold.  From Blue Thunder, it should be a quality alternative.

Click the link below to see the eBay listing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Thunder-272-292-312-Ford-Y-Block-Valley-Cover/283707239679?hash=item420e44ecff:g:ulkAAOSwkW5d7QEN

Hope this helps!   Smile 
By Daniel Jessup - 5 Years Ago
A helpful soul on this site was kind enough to send the Ford valley pan my way. I ended up swapping an overdrive solenoid for a very nice piece here as pictured. Thanks for the leads fellas!http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/d95c1b84-4f3a-44cb-94af-0ea6.jpg
By KULTULZ - 5 Years Ago
I don't think the BLUE THUNDER cast pan is deep enough to allow clearance for the '57 2X4 intake-

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ced5ebd8-3abf-4800-8857-bc82.jpg

Presenting the new Ford Y block 272, 292, 312 valley cover manufactured by Blue Thunder. This piece was designed to be able to fit most Y block engines without removing the cylinder heads. In helping the manufacturer design this valley cover we found that it is able to be installed in most applications without removal of cylinder heads, however 3 out of 10 engines in out shop required slight modification (grinding under intake port locations) in order to fit without removal of cylinder heads. We found if there was excess material left on cylinder heads during the casting process the plate required modification for fitment with removal of cylinder head. Sure you can grind the cast iron burr/flash parting line on the cylinder head down, but the truth is that it’s much easier to just modify the plate. This plate comes with the oil fill hole machined and 5” oil fill tube.

In the back of the plate you’ll find a 1/2” hole with built-in mesh filtration that is designed to pull crank case ventilation from engine without sucking oil, so you can run a PCV valve in place of the provided 90 degree fitting if so desired.

This plate has been shot pinned with stainless steel for a magnificent finish that will not rust and easy to clean (unlike other manufactures that still use iron shot on there aluminum that causes discoloration and rusting).



By PF Arcand - 5 Years Ago
That's a very nice looking piece, however maybe I'm missing something? How does one install a PCV & grommet into a 1/2" hole ?  Or does the valve have to be an inline setup of some sort attached to that brass fitting ?.. 
By KULTULZ - 5 Years Ago
PF Arcand (12/17/2019)


That's a very nice looking piece, however maybe I'm missing something? How does one install a PCV & grommet into a 1/2" hole ?  Or does the valve have to be an inline setup of some sort attached to that brass fitting ?.. 


While it is a beautiful piece, not much forethought was used (IMO) regarding the PCV casting inlet. The hole is threaded to accept the ninety-degree fitting for a remote valve use (similar to OEM). The inlet screen s inadequate as there is no baffle below it and oil vapor ingestion will be a problem (IMO).


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By BamaBob - 5 Years Ago
Kultulz, I agree with you! That tiny inlet and superfine screen will stay clogged up. My opinion.
By KULTULZ - 5 Years Ago
Well, not only that, but without an OEM copy splash shield, the system will be drawing oil vapors from splash constantly. That inlet is right at the dist drive and with it's lubrication design will flood the inlet with splash.

One needs to be made following the later FYB LT design and have the E-CODE relief to better allow the cooling of the underside of the intake manifold.(IMO).

Can you tell I am CDO (correct alphabetical sequence of OCD).

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By kevink1955 - 5 Years Ago
Did the stock cover shown above ever have any screen stuffed in it to help with oil carry over or was it just open on the side ??   were they the same with rear road draft tubes as with the later PCV setup ??
By KULTULZ - 5 Years Ago
No mesh media was used, either draft or PCV design.

The final design 292-4V PVC (LT) used the baffle shown, a vapor separator immediately above the pan opening, a cooling tube and a remote mtd. valve.

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