WTB 56 Ford Throttle Bracket for ECZ-B manifold


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By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/878a538d-afaf-4589-b9c0-53dc.jpgWTB 56 Ford Throttle Bracket for ECZ-B manifold
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
I posted 2 Possibles on your other Post.
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Bump: Still looking. One lead from Oldmics; but, still haven't connected.  Need something soon; or, will need to fabricate; as, I need to move car to another location "real soon now".

Regards, JLB
By Brent - 6 Years Ago
Hills has them listed in their catalog - pg. 54.
By Hoosier Hurricane - 6 Years Ago
Not sure what to look for in my stash.  '56 would not be factory equipped with a B manifold,  Therefore, would your application require a '56 or a '57 bracket?  Also, it could be driven without the linkage to the transmission but you will not have kickdown  nor crisper shifts with advanced throttle.  Easy driving would not hurt the transmission but the shift from 2-3 will be soft and happen early.  
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
The standard 1956 Linkage Setup will work on the "B' manifold with no Problems. I had to ad some Washers under the Bracket that bolts to Manifold  level it but other than that it worked fine. You have to adjust the Linkage and  Transmission Pressure  Rod to correct Length using the Procedure shown in the Fordomatic Manual. That pressure control Rod down to Transmission is very important as it controls internal Pressure in the Transmission for all Shifts-not just Kickdown. I would not suggest driving it without that Rod hooked up and properly Adjusted.
By paul2748 - 6 Years Ago
Ditto on what oldcarmark said.  I friend of mine with a 56 Bird put on a B manifold and he used the 56 linkage,  If I remember correctly, he also had to use some shims/washers  to,level things out.
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Thanks, folks.

I've just gotten some word back on the line from Oldmics; and, am really hopeful that that will work out very soon.  In the meantime, I may need to "cobble" something together just to get the car moved from where it is to where it needs to go.

I really appreciate the additional information regarding the '56 linkage, too!

Regards, JLB
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
FYI ONLY - (Not Meant To Start Debate or Arguments)

The 56 BIRD and 57 BIRD had their own unique brackets as compared to FORD.

1956 BIRD - F/M B6ST 7A185-A
1957 BIRD - F/M B7SZ 7A185-A
1957 FORD - F/M B7AZ 7A185-E

This must have been due to different chassis/body/intake manifold design.

So while different brackets can be made to work, the final calibration of the trans linkage is crucial (non-professional opinion).
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Thanks.

My application is specifically a 1955 Crown with a 292 (bored to 297) with an ECZ-B manifold and a Edelbrock 1405 carb: Just so there's no confusion as to what I'm looking for.

Regards, JLB
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
There's no actual exact Part for that Application. Never an Original availability. If You get one for a 55-56 with factory Teapot, Fordomatic, and "A" Manifold that's as close as You will find. There will be some  Modifications required like the Link to the Carburetor from Bell Crank. Just so You are aware of this.
By darrell - 6 Years Ago
one from a 57 will also work.
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
"My application is specifically a 1955 Crown with a 292 (bored to 297) with an ECZ-B manifold and a Edelbrock 1405 carb: Just so there's no confusion as to what I'm looking for."

Don't ask where I got the idea you had a BIRD. This CRS is getting to me.

IMO- If a '57 intake, you would want the '57 bracket so as to fit and appear correctly with no shim packs. You would modify the linkage(s) from there. It all depends on what final appearance you want.

Forgot to ask- Is the car MT or AT?
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Thanks, folks!
It's an "original" Fordomatic.

Long story short:  Many a decades ago my 1st '55 Crown was an A/T - young and innocent at the time, I burned it up not knowing to clean the intake screen for the air-cooled converter!  Changed that one to 3-spd w/overdrive.  Later on got '57 Merc S/W 312 engine with ECZ-G factory heads, factory "high-lift" cam, and Carter AFB 4bbl on ECZ-B manifold (had bracket!!).

Having to move 90 miles away for a job at a very bad economic time here in 1991 -- 1993 time period, left car "in storage" outside - nowhere "inside" available or affordable. Some time later, some local "kids" (whom I knew about - but no proof) torched that car.

A year later, spouse felt sorry enough to buy me a replacement car while "away" (personal economy had turned-around enough to then afford it).  Moved back to "home" territory - different home location in 1996.  Had saved as much of old car parts as possible, including complete engine, drivetrain, etc. 

Started building a retirement home in fall of 2008 (a month before the housing "bubble" burst - another separate personal [very challenging] economic story) at another (present) location - parts moved again!!!  Now can't find those working bracket parts anywhere!!!  Damn!!!  And, we all know that they WILL show-up AFTER I get the replacements obtained.

After now replacing the old (really tired) engine with a good replacement, I need to move the present car from my son's garage to here "real soon now", as he needs the garage space and I now have a place here to store it for the winter.

Thanks for listening to the "sob" story; but, I still need to acquire or cobble linkage to get it here - I'd really prefer to do the job "right" the first time; which is the reason for this "WTB" posting.

Regards, JLB
By darrell - 6 Years Ago
just run anything you can for gas feed the transmission will still shift and get you wherever your going.
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
KULTULZ (11/20/2018)


IMO- If a '57 intake, you would want the '57 bracket so as to fit and appear correctly with no shim packs. You would modify the linkage(s) from there. It all depends on what final appearance you want.


Please allow me to reiterate and qualify my statement-

"ONCE UPON A TIME IN A  Smile GALAXIE Smile  FAR, FAR AWAY ... "

I am a stickler for detail. If it ain't factory or better I just leave it alone. Especially on SAT NIGHTS where I will show you mine if you show me yours. The inspections are made, money held and then you can fire it up. Too late now.

If it was my 55 (how I wish) and going to an ECZ-B intake, I would try and modify the 55/56 throttle linkage to work and put a 56 ACL on it.

56 BIRD (I believe) - 292/312 w ECZ-B and 56 Throttle Linkage - Doesn't that look better than the 57 Throttle Bracket?

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EDIT -

"If it was my 55 (how I wish) and going to an ECZ-B intake, I would try and modify the 55/56 throttle linkage to work and put a 56 ACL on it."

Now how are you going to put a 56 ACL on a H-4150?

OK ... I think I am ready for the home ...
By carl - 6 Years Ago
I have a complete set of 56 Ford linkage,give me a e mail address or cell phone number and I will send you a picture.  Carl
By NoShortcuts - 6 Years Ago
bergmanj (JLB).  Okay.  Your back story provides understanding. 
Kultulz and I think alike.  Personally, I'd look to match the bellcrank with the particular intake manifold you are using. 
That said, which bell crank do YOU want?  A '56 or a '57 assembly?

IF you want the '56 style, I'd highly recommend turning to Carl.  Carl has supplied me with numerous GooD used y-block parts at fair prices.

Hope one of us can help you!   Smile
By Florida_Phil - 6 Years Ago
Here's a photo of my throttle linkage.  My car is a 55 TBird with O/D.  I am running a 1957 ECZ-B manifold and a Holley.  I used the 55 linkage with a couple of washers to level it out and it works perfectly. 

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By Pete 55Tbird - 6 Years Ago
Like Phil said. I put a B manifold and Holley 4150  and I used the EXISTING 4BBL linkage on the 312 I dropped into my 55Tbird with FOM back in the 60`s and it runs, downshifts AND ALL Pete
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Pete,

Is yours the same as above photos? If not, can you post a photo of your setup.

Thanks & regards, JLB
By Pete 55Tbird - 6 Years Ago
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JLB, You call we haul. maybe Pete
By Pete 55Tbird - 6 Years Ago
JBL, you call we haul, Have a great Thanksgiving Pete
By Lord Gaga - 6 Years Ago
Pete 55Tbird (11/22/2018)
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Where does that copper tubing attached to the road draft pipe lead?
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Pete,

Thanks a lot for the photos! 

Interestingly enough, your photos are very helpful; but, now, also serve to confuse me a bit more because your setup is, again, "different" from all the others I've seen in other photos posted here - what a variety!

All the varieties shown have also got to be "interesting" to some other folks here too!  I'm hopeful that this information can help someone else too: Perhaps one of the moderators would like to edit some of the photos & information in this thread & place it as a "sticky" for future use for "everybody"?

Regards, JLB
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
Lord Gaga posted-

"Where does that copper tubing attached to the road draft pipe lead?"

That is the manifold vacuum source on the 57 ECZ-B intake for booster/wipe rmotor.

The line is copper and maybe a gig should be considered ... Smile

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By Pete 55Tbird - 6 Years Ago
Copper line is in fact manifold to the dual vacuum fuel pump that powers the windshield wipers. I put in on in 1965, it has allowed me to drive in the rain ,and snow when
guys with much more "CORRECT" cars park their cars to preserve the ( fill in the blank) Pete
By Pete 55Tbird - 6 Years Ago
JLB, keep in mind my throttle linkage is for a Holley 4150 TYPE carb and also controls the 55 aircooled FOM and the KICKDOWN that allows passing gear.
Very important, almost vital for this set-up. If your glasstop has a FOM YOU NEED THIS feature. Do your homework NOW and not after. Good luck Pete
By Lord Gaga - 6 Years Ago
Oh, My bad. Looked like it was attached to the road draft pipe!Laugh
By bergmanj - 6 Years Ago
Folks,

My sincere thanks to two people who were both very helpful with both photos and offers of parts: Carl & Oldmics.  They sent various photos and other information.  And I had phone conversations with both, too!

I'm very appreciative to both!

I've now purchased some parts from Oldmics; and, hope that I can "kludge" working linkage together with those and other parts.

Regards, JLB
By 2721955meteor - 6 Years Ago
have it all from 1956 mere 312. 30.00 us plus frt from blain wa   ct1940@shaw.ca also have good running 1956 312  just north os blain wa