Looking for A Valley Pan with rear Opening for Road Draft Tube


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By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
Looking for a Valley Pan in good shape and reasonable Price. Want to install PCV so need One with rear Opening and Baffle.. 
By miker - 6 Years Ago
FWIW, I’ve used this with success on stock motors. Didn’t work so well with the blower and high volume oil pump at high rpm. But you can install it in a valley pan without the rear draft opening.

https://www.amazon.com/Moroso-68776-Valve-Grommet-Baffle/dp/B001G9FRKC
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
Here's one off a '52 292 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/60-61-62-63-64-FORD-272-292-312-Y-BLOCK-ENGINE-MOTOR-INTAKE-VALLEY-PAN/132807418986?epid=1323297676&hash=item1eebf0646a:g:-9oAAOSwty5btR1o&vxp=mtr
By carl - 6 Years Ago
I have one, good shape but needs a good cleaning and painted.$40.00 plus shipping from Ohio    Carl
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
Thanks Mike for the Heads up about these Grommets. I was not aware these are available. I want to use it in the Valley Cover as opposed to Valve Cover as I have a set of the Original Thunderbird Covers.
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
carl (10/7/2018)
I have one, good shape but needs a good cleaning and painted.$40.00 plus shipping from Ohio    Carl

Thanks for the Offer Carl. Fair Price. My problem is shipping Cost to Canada which USPS is charging an Arm & a Leg now. I am going to try the Grommet that Miker pointed out. Stock Motor so I think should work OK.
By miker - 6 Years Ago
Sorry Mark, I should have noted that I used it in the valley cover at the rear location. I’ve got the ‘bird valve covers too.
By paul2748 - 6 Years Ago
I got a TBird valley pan in excellent condition ready to install, but the shipping thing would still be a problem.

You need a shipping address near the border so you could cross over.
By darrell - 6 Years Ago
ship by mail same price as you would pay in canada.never use any of the others.i can mail a part to florida  for the same price as i can ship to ontario.
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
I have an extra Valley Cover from the last Time I did this. Going to try the Grommet Miker pointed Me to. Thanks Guys.
By BamaBob - 6 Years Ago
Miker, are you saying that you just drill a hole in a regular valley pan that doesn't have a baffle and install the grommet? Is there no problem with oil getting in it?
By miker - 6 Years Ago
I used the previous version of their grommet, looked more like what I’d call a “duck bill” on both a stock bird cover and a finned aluminum cover. Worked fine till I went to the hi volume/pressure oil pump. And the supercharger and cam, and started winging it past 5500 rpm. Then I started to suck oil in. I added a baffle in the aluminum cover, but I’m still using one of those grommets. They’re made to go in a valve cover, but there’s a lot of oil flying around in most of those, too.



On a stock motor, I didn’t have a problem. RPM and boost complicated things.
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
I got the Grommets. I assume You still need another Grommet to fit the PCV and fit inside this One or will the PCV fit as is?  Mine is just Stock Motor so I think this will work for Me in the Valley Cover.
By BamaBob - 6 Years Ago
Carl, do you still have a valley pan with the road draft tube hole in it for sale? Thanks for your reply.
BamaBob
By KULTULZ - 6 Years Ago
Is this what you are after?
PVC Valve Grommet w Baffle - Moroso 68776
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f3da9da5-c257-4dd0-87dc-dfe7.jpg
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
KULTULZ (12/1/2018)
Is this what you are after?
PVC Valve Grommet w Baffle - Moroso 68776
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f3da9da5-c257-4dd0-87dc-dfe7.jpg

That's the One I purchased. Haven't used it yet as I have my Motor out to re Gasket and new Seals.
By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
miker (10/10/2018)
I used the previous version of their grommet, looked more like what I’d call a “duck bill” on both a stock bird cover and a finned aluminum cover. Worked fine till I went to the hi volume/pressure oil pump. And the supercharger and cam, and started winging it past 5500 rpm. Then I started to suck oil in. I added a baffle in the aluminum cover, but I’m still using one of those grommets. They’re made to go in a valve cover, but there’s a lot of oil flying around in most of those, too.



On a stock motor, I didn’t have a problem. RPM and boost complicated things.

What Size Hole do I need to cut for this Grommet?
By charliemccraney - 6 Years Ago
Those are usually designed for a 1 1/4" hole.  However, there can be quite a difference from one grommet to another.  Measure the diameter of the grommet with a caliper, use a hole saw which is about a size under the desired diameter and then use a dremel to fit it to the grommet.  That way you avoid making the hole to big.
If you use a 1 1/4" hole saw, it will be too big because hole saws are not extremely accurate cutting devices and the fact that the grommet may actually be a little smaller could  make matters worse.
By carl - 6 Years Ago
BamaBob (12/1/2018)
Carl, do you still have a valley pan with the road draft tube hole in it for sale? Thanks for your reply.
BamaBob
Yes I still have a couple  Carl 

By oldcarmark - 6 Years Ago
charliemccraney (12/1/2018)
Those are usually designed for a 1 1/4" hole.  However, there can be quite a difference from one grommet to another.  Measure the diameter of the grommet with a caliper, use a hole saw which is about a size under the desired diameter and then use a dremel to fit it to the grommet.  That way you avoid making the hole to big.
If you use a 1 1/4" hole saw, it will be too big because hole saws are not extremely accurate cutting devices and the fact that the grommet may actually be a little smaller could  make matters worse.

Sorry for taking this Topic away from original Posting. Does the PCV fit in this Grommet once installed or am I going to need another smaller Grommet to fit inside this One? I haven't really checked it as I am not installing in yet.
By charliemccraney - 6 Years Ago
Most pcf valves fit into a 3/4" hole unless they are in an enclosure of some kind.

If it's just a pcv valve, then it's probably not going to fit that grommet.  If in an enclosure, then it probably will fit that grommet.

I've used Moroso 68772 for the 3/4" id.  There might be others.  I do remember that there were far fewer options for 3/4" id baffled grommets than there are for, I think, 1" id.
By miker - 6 Years Ago
If this link works, it shows the different sizes of grommets. Both the same od, but different id for oil fill, breather, or pvc. It doesn’t know if it’s in a valve cover or a valley cover.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/brand/moroso/part-type/valve-cover-grommets
By Loon - 6 Years Ago
I have one at the shop, I'll take a picture of it tomorrow and send it along.
Loon
By BamaBob - 6 Years Ago
carl (12/1/2018)
[quote]BamaBob (12/1/2018)
Carl, do you still have a valley pan with the road draft tube hole in it for sale? Thanks for your reply.
BamaBob
Yes I still have a couple  Carl 

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Thanks for your prompt reply. If you'll PM me the info on how to purchase one from you, I'll do that right away. Thank you.