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By junkyardjeff - 8 Years Ago
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Since my dad bought my 55 new I have been thinking about building the drivetrain the way I would have ordered it if it was me going into the dealer back in 55,there is no way I would have gotten the automatic and it would be the 3 speed with o/d so can a complete and working system be found or would there be anyone be willing to get rid of one. It will be a couple years before I will be starting the build of the 292 so I have time to watch for one and would be nice to find one that I can just install and go without rebuilding but will probably cost some serious money.
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By miker - 8 Years Ago
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I saaume you're looking for the T-86 and R-10 combo that would have come stock. Post a wanted add here, the ford barn, and maybe the HAMB. Might try eBay also, but I'd want to see it first if it was there.
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By 62bigwindow - 8 Years Ago
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There are 2 options. The T86 with the R10 overdrive and a T85 with the R11. The T85 will be a bit tougher to find as they are real popular. I have a T86 with OD that I may sell but it's out of a 56. Unless you plan to convert your car to 12 volt the solenoid won't work.
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By NoShortcuts - 8 Years Ago
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Hmmmm...
Your '56 3 spd. w/ o/d will work in his '55. All he would have to do is substitute a 6 volt solenoid for the current 12 volt unit. Everything else is the same 
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By NoShortcuts - 8 Years Ago
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Two currently advertised remanufactured T-86 3 speed w/ R-11 overdrive units on eBay. Intended for information purposes, not mine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BORG-WARNER-1967-FORD-T-86-3-SPEED-REBUILT-TRANSMISSION-WITH-R-10-OD-10-X-28-/351738486851?hash=item51e53f6043:g:2-cAAOSwQjZXPg9E&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BORG-WARNER-FORD-T-86-3-SPEED-REBUILT-TRANSMISSION-WITH-R-10-OD-NARROW-BOLT-/291510061692?hash=item43df5a8a7c:g:OzoAAOSwv0tVZ3TZ&vxp=m
Notice that the two units have different spline counts on the input shaft.
The seller has had a high number of transactions on eBay (over 5,000) and is carrying a 100% satisfaction rating which is hard to do. I bought synchronizers (blocking rings) from him and was satisfied with the transaction.
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By 62bigwindow - 8 Years Ago
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Yes that is correct.
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By junkyardjeff - 8 Years Ago
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I would prefer a 56 and up trans since my 55 is now`12 volts and does look like I will be spending big money if I do go with one,since I will be starting from scratch I will need to find one that has everything with it.
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By miker - 8 Years Ago
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Jeff, maybe I'm just out of date, but that's way more than I'd expect for a T-86 R-10. That's even high for a T-85 R-11. I'd keep looking, I think you can do way better than that.
If you get the right one, i.e., not a truck, with the right length input shaft, or whatever, I think about all you'll need is the driveshaft. Maybe a mount change or clutch disc if the splines aren't the same.
The hot rod reverend mocks one up in his "refresh" blog, might try contacting him. He seems to have a line on parts sometimes.
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By 62bigwindow - 8 Years Ago
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The T86 only came with the R10 overdrive. The Ebay listing is insanely high. A good T86 OD will run around $300 and a T85 OD about twice that. If your motor is stock a T86 OD will live forever as long as you don't routinely abuse it. A higher HP motor that will see abuse would require a T85. If your interested in my T86 OD let me know. It worked great with no problems.
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By 62bigwindow - 8 Years Ago
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As far as replicating the complete system it won't be that hard. The relay and kick down switch are available aftermarket as is the wiring harness and the OD cable. I have a reproduction harness also if you choose. For some reason it wouldn't work on my car. It was a little too short and I didn't feel like moving the relay.
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By miker - 8 Years Ago
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Ok, that sounds more like it, at least $ wise. I think all 292's came with the T-86 unit, at least my 55 bird did. The T-85 R-11 came behind the 312's, and was used up to the 406's. So it's pretty tough. Unless your foot keeps slipping off the clutch at 5000 rpm or so, a T-86 is fine. Probably lose the rear end first.
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By junkyardjeff - 8 Years Ago
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Before I get too carried away trying to get one just how much abuse will they take,I am thinking I am going to build the motor a little and want to stab the go pedal every now and then so I do not want to have something that will have to be babied all the time. I know nothing about these trans and are something new to me as when I grew up 4 speeds were the rage and did not want a 3 speed even with o/d.
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By miker - 8 Years Ago
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Jeff, about the only abuse they won't take is dumping the clutch hard. Even then, many of them lived a long time on stock tires without posi. I doubt you'll build a motor with enough torque to break one once its moving in gear. They don't take to speed shifting (to me, that's right foot on the floor during the shift), but with a column shift you'll probably float the valves first. Big tires and posi did more to destroy any transmission than design problems. I put a T-86 O/D behind a 352 in a 59 bird, and at 16, I never manage to break it. Couple u joints, but never the trans.
The main problem is the lack of Syncro in first gear. I live in a town full of hills and stop and go traffic. I just got tired of trying to double clutch into low. So I put a T-5 in. You can break even a world class like I have, but I've got posi and 235/60 T/A's on the back.
With the factory wiring, including the kick down switch, they're great to drive. Add a cut out switch (real easy), and they can even be pulled out of o/d while moving. (There's a couple tricks to that, but my Dad knew and made me learn it).
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By NoShortcuts - 8 Years Ago
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Jeff. Food for thought...
The parts you need are getting o-l-d. Even though you don't need some things right now, you may want to pick things up when they become available.
Consider these eBay offerings from flypigeon:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-1956-Ford-passenger-car-NOS-brake-pedal-arm-and-NOS-rubber-stop-std-auto-/331740494254?hash=item4d3d4639ae:g:HGMAAOSw9N1VxKYM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-FORD-PASSENGER-CAR-NEW-CLUTCH-ROD-B5A-7525-A-FAIRLANE-VICTORIA-CUSTOM-ETC-/331767798127?hash=item4d3ee6d96f:g:oggAAOSwwTlUn0aT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-FORD-Z-BAR-CLUTCH-BELL-CRANK-EQUALIZER-ASSEMBLY-FOR-MANUAL-TRANSMISSIONS-/231898464703?hash=item35fe39c1bf:g:Q-MAAOSwZQxW51RQ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-1956-FORD-THROTTLE-LINKAGE-FIREWALL-BELL-CRANK-FOR-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-l2-/231843703737?hash=item35faf62bb9:g:7zYAAOSwuAVWvemz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-1956-FORD-CLUTCH-PEDAL-ARM-WITH-HARDWARE-FOR-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-/231898461729?hash=item35fe39b621:g:coAAAOSwr7ZW6Aqt
I needed a '55/'56 y-block timing set oil trough and obtained one from this fellow. Everything is negotiable. Perhaps you could obtain a package deal on the parts you need or want to secure.
Here's another piece from Forum member Dan Jessup
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-1956-55-56-Ford-Transmission-Clutch-Rod-Y-Bloc-3-speed-Manual-and-overdrive-/262567978019?hash=item3d22456423:g:~58AAOSwanRXgvmr&vxp=mtr
I'd write Forum member Carl Lynn, also. He's got quite a bit of '55 / '56 stuff, I think. Email Carl at cl56vic@yahoo.com
By assembling your parts over time, you'll have them when you need them and one set-up that comes along may be better for you than another, too.
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By NoShortcuts - 8 Years Ago
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Hmmm... This eBay seller has quite a bit of '55 / '56 stuff including two transmissions. One is just a 3 speed and the other a 3 speed with overdrive.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-OVERDRIVE-TRANSMISSION-56-FORD-1956-USED-/302034312998?hash=item4652a5df26:g:44oAAOSwCypWo8Ww
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-USED-TRANSMISSION-FOR-56-FORD-1956-3-SPEED-STANDARD-/302034313001?hash=item4652a5df29:g:6E8AAOSwX~dWo8Ju
Consider communicating with the seller. Items don't always sell for the seller's asking price. Too, maybe you've got something he wants or needs. 
Not needing something NOW is a great position to approach things from, Jeff.
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By carl - 8 Years Ago
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Jeff I have a 55 Top loader OD trans with a bad cluster gear,probably have a non Od 3 speed for parts Carl
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By junkyardjeff - 8 Years Ago
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This fall when the weeds die down I am going to grab all the clutch linkage,column and pedals from a 55 wagon in a local junkyard and then start the hunt for the trans and other needed parts,its going to be a big job getting those parts since there is a 2 1/2 foot diameter tree right up next to the drivers door of that wagon and probably the reason all those parts are still on the car.
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By 62bigwindow - 8 Years Ago
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Get the bell housing if it has it. Every trans I have seen for sale does not include it. Also when you do buy a OD make sure it has the governor and solenoid with it. The last two posted on here from eBay did not have them.
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By carl - 8 Years Ago
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junkyardjeff (8/12/2016)
This fall when the weeds die down I am going to grab all the clutch linkage,column and pedals from a 55 wagon in a local junkyard and then start the hunt for the trans and other needed parts,its going to be a big job getting those parts since there is a 2 1/2 foot diameter tree right up next to the drivers door of that wagon and probably the reason all those parts are still on the car. Jeff I have all of the parts you need to change the 55 to standard shift, if the wagon in the junk yard is to rusted up. Carl
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By Shaggy - 8 Years Ago
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My '59 daily runs that combo, i is great with the 3.73 gears in the back. I cant wait to 4bbl swap it and see what the 292 is like since this 2bbl isnt in the best shape. The .70 gear sure makes a world of difference compared to the r's i pull with the same 3.73 gears in my '65 el camino.
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By willowbilly3 - 8 Years Ago
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A whole donor car might be a good option. I recently bid up a very straight, solid and complete o/d 56 Merc at auction and let it go for $650 to the other bidder. A 56,000 mile car that had been sitting a couple decades, 312 not stuck. Buyer later told me he was all in at the 650 and if I'd bid 700 it would have been mine.
I did come away with a 59 F250 4x4 though, same condition and I now have it running like new.
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