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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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Everyone, finally got the 292 motor out of the old truck and cleaned her up somewhat. I know that it was changed from a 3 on the tree to a Borg/Warner 4 speed but the block has me mystified for it is Blue. It is a 1963 F100 that has sat since 1981, not seized, turned over had spark etc,. but now I am figuring that this is not the original engine. So, now I am kind of second guessing myself as if this engine is worth the rebuild?? I did dump the oil and there was no water in it for the motor and rad still had antifreeze in it. I will try and track down the owner but were there rebuilds back in the day where they used different blocks and if they did were they new or used blocks when redone for people? I was going to have it professionally done but now I am at junction point. I'm not an expert but can dismantle however I would not know what to look for. Your thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. I am heading south for warmer weather now but will read and answer as I can. Tks JP
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By 2721955meteor - 9 Years Ago
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wher do you live. In bc the ford rebuilder painted most engines ford blue.. they usualey had a metal tag stating over size etc
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By NoShortcuts - 9 Years Ago
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I wouldn't be put-off by the engine having been rebuilt previously OR if it is other than the original engine block for your truck. Some Ford y-blocks have been rebuilt more than once simply because they've been used extensively and parts like rings and timing chains do wear with use even with conscientious maintenance.
A rebuilder or a remanufacturer having painted the refurbished engine is common practice. Two y-block engines I've had occasions to tear down for re-conditioning were previously re-manufactured by Ford Authorized Remanufacturers. Both had been repainted a dark Ford Blue. One had the metal tag Cliff mentioned the other had a painted Ford label on it (adjacent to the starter) that did not provide interior rebuild info. One engine was done by a Ford authorized remanufacturer in the Northeast the other in the Southwest.
Click the link below to see John Mummerts block ID info to help you figure out what you've got.
http://ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htm
Hope this helps! 
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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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Tks! When I get back I will look for a tag, but with all that has been said I will keep true to the plan and it's on a motor stand now so maybe I will try to get it running..... When I took the front crossover from exhaust manifold they were filled up pretty good with flax seed and stuff..... We will find out. tks all
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By '60 Fairlane - 9 Years Ago
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Still turns over and the mice were living in the exhaust! Good luck with it & have fun!
-Dave
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By Ted - 9 Years Ago
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The block casting numbers are important. Not only will they help to identify the time frame in which the block was cast, it will also help to confirm if the block was cast as a 292 or something else. What you really want to avoid is a 272 block (ECG casting) that has been bored 0.125” or more to make a 292 out of it. Those engines were iffy on cylinder wall thicknesses when over-boring this much without first sonic testing and once done, they are not conducive to much if any additional rebuild over-boring.
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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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When we get back home I will get into the block numbers and see what I find. Tks very much and will keep all posted, hopefully its all good.....
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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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Hey everyone, Cleaned up the block and found no numbers by the oil filter or generator but at the Distributor was "CECK 6015A with a big number 1 below it" So reading some threads it states this: "Cast in Canada. Export block. Used in Canada, Australia etc", which if I read correctly it is a Dearborn block. Then on the same page it states "NO Dearborn blocks after 1957". So, it is a 1963 truck and this must be a replacement block/motor correct? I found some other number on the block above the bell housing "10K6" and cannot find any info on these. Thoughts appreciated as to keep going on the rebuild or ..... JP
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By Oldmics - 9 Years Ago
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Take a look see at this thread I started a few years ago about the Canadian cast engines.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic99434.aspx?Keywords=canadian
You just might have yourself a 312 engine
Oldmics
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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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Well that was interesting, I'm going to clean it up some more, I don't see any harm putting it on the motor stand and start to dissemble it. It was on a Sask. farm all its life of 35,000 miles. I have tracked down the original owner and he is supposed to give me a call, maybe he can shed some light. Tks for the link, I will probably read it again just to make sure I'm not confused. JP
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By 314 - 9 Years Ago
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this is a 55 or 56 engine 292.they also used it to build the 56 312.
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By hdshadpar - 9 Years Ago
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Well everyone it's a 292, been tearing it down and flipped her over and the numbers on the crank tell the story. I also heard from the original owner and it was a Sears rebuilt. So, thanks for the help and info and will continue on. Until the next issue! JP
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By F100Jay - 9 Years Ago
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Glad you finally know...these engine codes are a pain..it could be this...might be that! My engine code dictates it could be a 292 or 312..Now ordered a sump gasket as its irritating me not knowing. Cant wait to pull the sump off next week and find out.
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