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By suede57ford - 9 Years Ago
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I weighed my '57 Custom Tudor Sedan today. Without me, and a full tank off gas, it weighed #3940.
That seems pretty heavy to me. 352 CI Y-Block, 1/2" main girdle, Moldex Billet crank, VR57 Supercharger with factory brackets and air cleaner, Mummert Aluminum Heads, Blue Thunder Aluminum Intake, Aluminum Timing Cover, Tremec TKO transmission, Aluminum driveshaft, 13" Baer Brakes, Nodular Nine with Detroit Locker, Aluminum Radiator and MSD 6ALBTM box, Holley Black Fuel Pump, and full 2 1/4 exhaust system.
100% stock body and interior.
It does have working hang on AC, a full stereo system (six speakers, two amps, and 10'sub in small box), and sound deadening under the carpet. The trunk has light weight '03 Cobra Spare tire, a small loaded tool box, and an aluminum floor jack.
Yes, I removed the baby seats before weighing.
It weighed more than I expected, considering its not that far from stock, with many lightweight parts.
I would rather it be comfortable, quite, and cool, then dump a bunch of features to lighten it up.
I'll just keep working on the motor to make it faster.
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By pegleg - 9 Years Ago
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Pat,
Mine's at 3850 with me in it. No air, but that's 200 + pounds lighter than you. Also has a cast iron FMX in there!
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By Rowen - 9 Years Ago
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What type of sound deadner do you have? I understand that some o that stuff can get pretty heavy..
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By slumlord444 - 9 Years Ago
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Seems on the heavy side to me. As I recall the Custom 300 that I had back in the late '60's weighed 3600 and that was with a 390 in it. It was about the same as my '57 Bird with the 312. The AC, stereo, and sound deadener may be the culprit.
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By suede57ford - 9 Years Ago
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The Supercharger set-up and all it's components adds up as well. I'm sure that with head unit, brackets, pulleys hoses it adds more than 100lbs to it. The front end actually goes up 1/2 and inch when the supercharger head unit is off.
Of course the blower adds way more in Horse Power than it's weight penalty.
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By ian57tbird - 9 Years Ago
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My 57 bird weighed in at 3520 all original with auto trans, hardtop, no AC, and about a 1/4 of a tank of fuel.
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By charliemccraney - 9 Years Ago
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My truck is 3675 with me in it, so that seems about right with the extra glass, seat, and sheet metal, etc in a car.
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By RB - 9 Years Ago
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I just scaled my 56 Merc. I was surprised that it weighs 3640 with a full tank of gas. Add 200 for the driver
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By suede57ford - 9 Years Ago
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My '57 T-Bird has a 460/C6 with full length headers and it weighed 3450 on the same scale that I weighed the sedan. It has similar equipment to the Sedan, with stereo, sound deadening, but with no AC in the bird. Both my cars have the 13" Baer Brakes,which adds a few pounds as well. All my cars have spare tires, jacks and some sort of tool kits as well. I plan to put a change the T-bird back to y-block power, tremc TKO, and a VR57 Blower. I'll be interested to see how that affects the weight over the 460. I bet it weighs in about the same with Y including due to the supercharger set-up.
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By tbirddragracer - 9 Years Ago
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Pat,
It is interesting that you have a '57 T-Bird,460, C6.
I have the same exact set-up in a black '57, 460, C6, AC, rack & pinion,
posi-trac, and 4 wheel disc brakes. Great driver, I bought the car this way.
I prefer y-blocks, but the car is too pretty and fast to change.
Ernie Phillips
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By PF Arcand - 9 Years Ago
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I suspect that a 429 or 460 engine in a T.Bird would be great for power, but not so for weight distribution, as I believe they weigh in at about 700+ lbs.!
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By tbirddragracer - 9 Years Ago
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Paul,
I think the difference in weight between the y-block and the 460
is approximately 100 to 110 lbs. depending on acessories.
Not that much. My car has a Kugel IFS front suspension system,
and handles great.
Ernie Phillips
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By suede57ford - 9 Years Ago
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One advantage to the T-Bird on weight distribution is the engine is set back nearly behind the front wheels. If you look at the upper control arms of a 55-57 T-Bird you will see they are ahead of the motor, so the engines weight is not all on the front wheels. The rear wheels are just right behind the seat. The setback engine and short wheel base is probably an advantage for the T-Bird. I would guess that the 460/c6 with headers and aluminum intake is not that much more than a Y-Block with a factory supercharger set-up and either a t-85 w/cast bell housing or even heavier a Fordomatic.
My T-Bird has a Cavalier rack and pinion on the front. It has some bump-steer issues, that I need to work out. I haven't spent much time on it since I'm going back to the factory manual steering when I put the Y-Block back in.
I originally bought my T-Bird to do an F-clone and race it a the Y-Block Shoot-Outs. I figured it would make a nice combo with two black VR57 powered street/strip cars.T
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By ian57tbird - 9 Years Ago
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The cast iron trans really kills the weight of the original cars. Even with the 460 yours still comes out lighter than my TBird.
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