progress pic's of my Pop's '60 PU


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By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
Hey guys, here are a few pics of my Dad's (yehaabill) turbo 292 Pickup. We have been working off and on it for a couple of weeks now. For now, the setup is as follows:



Stock 30K mile long block

Isky Cam

High ratio rockers

Red's Headers

Holley 600

Garrett TO4-B 60-1 turbo

Custom piping by Dad and I











We used his "new" engine to mock up most of it in the shop







I fabbed up a "Y" pipe off the Red's headers







Detail shot
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
We are running the turbo setup as a "draw through"...in other words the turbocharger will draw fuel out of the carb, compress it and blow the fuel mixture into the intake manifold







The carb adapter was fabbed out of some 12 ga. aluminum sheet and 1" 6061 aluminum was used for the mounting base







Here is a shot of Pops in action!







Built a mounting bracket for the carb







Downpipe mockup
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
Another engine shot









Now for the turbocharger. I have been messing around with turbos since 1993 or so...I began with the venerable 9535-1 "60-1" TO4-E compressor wheel. I wanted to keep the older feel under the hood of the '60, so I decided to put together a TO4-B series turbo from RotoMaster...so a little machine work was in order!



Getting the wheel set up







After machining, the wheel must be re balanced...this is a pic of the whole assembly being balanced







Here are all the parts before assembly
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
The 60-1 compressor wheel was not around when RotoMaster was building turbos, so a little machine work...and the wheel fits perfectly!









I chose a "P-Trim" turbine wheel...







The center housing rotating assembly or "CHRA" as it is referred to in turbo terms







"On center" exhaust housing...circa 1965 or so!







Complete
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
We have driven the truck a couple of hundred miles so far...and I have a few bugs to work out. The biggest of which is a dead spot right around the 10" of vacuum and really light throttle. I have a wide-band O2 sensor that I am going to use to check the Air/Fuel ratio at that throttle opening. The dynamics of pulling the air and fuel from the carb base into the turbo inlet does mess around with the mixture a little. I suspect that the plenum under the carb along with the 3" pipe entering the turbo might be hurting me a little, but we will see.



On the current engine, we are only running about 6 psi of boost. Pops has a Crane ignition with Boost retard that we have not put in yet...but after that goes in, I will post up some performance evaluations! Cool



Thanks for looking!

--reed
By bird55 - 16 Years Ago
Smilevery impressive. Can't wait to see more.
By charliemccraney - 16 Years Ago
Damn, I was hoping I'd be the first to put a turbo on a truck.  That looks great!  So thats a pull through, rather than a blow through, right?  Can't wait to hear about the performance!
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
56Sedan (3/30/2008)
Nice work & photos!!!

I'm jealous of your machine shop... all I have is a 50 yr old Craftsman lathe and a drill press!

My little lathe is a Montgomery Ward...some people tell me that it is twice as old as I am Cool...I love old machine shop equipment, shure beats the heck out of the chiwaneese stuff they sell now a days!

That little guy has made more cool stuff for us than I could ever talk about...and it is small enough to fit in a corner!

-reed

By pegleg - 16 Years Ago
now that's cool, How did you get the photos to post?
By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
Nice to see that turbo set ups are becoming more popular there too BigGrin. Who will be next? Any thoughts adding an intercooler to your PU? Can you put some videos visible somewhere? Can't wait to hear that thing whistle...w00t
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
pegleg (3/31/2008)
now that's cool, How did you get the photos to post?

Hey Frank,

  I use a photo hosting site (www.fotki.com) and when you post, there is an icon on the top of the tool bar in the forum window that looks like a mountian with the sun in the background...if you click that, it will allow you to copy and paste a URL link to your photo server...

  Maybe somebody else can explain it better than me...I am no computer guru Smile

--reed

By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
Hollow Head (3/31/2008)
Nice to see that turbo set ups are becoming more popular there too BigGrin. Who will be next? Any thoughts adding an intercooler to your PU? Can you put some videos visible somewhere? Can't wait to hear that thing whistle...w00t

  I have a few videos of the truck at our local 1/8th mile dragstrip that I will post up...it is all prior to the turbo, though!

  As far as intercooling goes, with a draw-thru system the fuel is mixed with the pressurized air (carb before turbo)...so putting that mixture through an intercooler is kinda dangerous if you were to have an intake backfire.  Also, cooling the air will cause the fuel to drop out of suspension a little...These are the main negative points of a draw-thru system.

  On the positive side, a draw-thru setup does not have to require alot of carburetor and fuel pump mods, since you are not pressurizing the carb itself.  So the fuel enrichment side is easier to take care of.

  If you study up the factory McCullogh supercharged Y-blocks, you will notice that the fuel pump has a boost reference port to increase fuel pressure as manifold pressure increases.  It also has some tricks in the carb.

  On a turbocharger, because the boost curve is much more dynamic than a supercharger (the supercharger is driven off a belt, so boost will follow the engine rpm), a blow through carb setup is a real tuning challenge. 

Thanks for the compliments!

-reed

By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
a blow through carb setup is a real tuning challenge



Yeah, we too have noticed that and that's why we are building a Megasquirt controlled 8-point injection to our next creation BigGrin.



Good luck with your project and keep us posted about quartermile results!
By yfreak57 - 16 Years Ago
AWESOME = Aivan Mahtavaa (in Finnish) !!!! w00t
By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
yfreak57 (4/1/2008)
AWESOME = Aivan Mahtavaa (in Finnish) !!!! w00t

BigGrin cool way for me to learn a new language!  hotrodding = the universal language of HORSEPOWER!

Thanks for looking,

--reed

By Unibodyguy - 16 Years Ago
That is so cool, glad to hear you've got it up and running. What heads did use for this project?

                                                        Michael

By Reed P - 16 Years Ago
Unibodyguy (4/3/2008)
That is so cool, glad to hear you've got it up and running. What heads did use for this project?

                                                        Michael

 

Currently we are using the stock heads that came on the truck since it was in such good shape....the new engine that we are building will be using a better head...maybe my dad will post up that info.  I am a real noob to the "Y"...but my dad has found a head that is "posted"...maybe off a HD truck application or???  It is supposed to offer better combustion chamber support up in water jacket area.

The new engine is going to have all the "goodies" needed for the turbo to really run right!  Nice rods, forged pistons, SS valves, little port work etc...can't wait!

Thanks,

Reed