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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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Is the gravel shield between the front bumper and grill painted body color or silver? I've seen them both ways but wonder which is correct. Mine is painted silver.
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By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
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I think Argent Silver is the correct color. Chuck
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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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Thanks. It seemed to look better with it silver than others that were painted body color but then I'm used to it also.
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By Talkwrench - 10 Years Ago
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Obviously my townie has been painted again , but mine is silver..?
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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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I'd be curious to know what the correct type of silver it should be. I'm just not sure if mine has been repainted the right color.
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By PF Arcand - 10 Years Ago
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As mentioned, Ford referred to the color as "Argent" silver. It's available from at least one spray can maker, and is sometimes used as a wheel paint. My 57 has a body colored splash panel, but I know it's not correct.
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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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Is the color more of a generic Argent like Ford used on some later model plastic grills or does someone manufacture the correct color?
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By PF Arcand - 10 Years Ago
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DJ: I doubt that even a concours judge is going to know the difference.. however, VHT sp-168 wheel paint is listed as matching Ford Argent Silver. Not happy with that? try Eastwood #1291Z Argent wheel paint..
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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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No, I'm not looking for judging. I just like look to see if OE spec is available before using something that is "close enough". My philosophy is why settle for something close if original is available.
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By Larry D - 10 Years Ago
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I've always used the Argent Silver. Last number I have is PPG8568. If you want it to sparkle a bit more follow it up with a satin-gloss clearcoat.
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By 56_Fairlane - 10 Years Ago
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By any chance does anyone have any close up photos of the part or know of some with the original paint?
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By Rusty_S85 - 9 Years Ago
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Mine has hints indicating the gravel shield was painted body color on mine. Then again my frame has body color paint on it as well in areas as well. People have told me its over spray but the body would have been painted before assembly and this car has never been painted since it left the factory. So I honestly think it depends on what factory the vehicle was built at that determined how the finished product looked.
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By paul2748 - 9 Years Ago
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The Tbird suppliers have an argent paint. It is used on various things including the air filter. Not sure its the same as the splash apron
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By slumlord444 - 9 Years Ago
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Any T-Bird parts supplier has the correct Ford Argent in spray cans. I use it on the factory dual quad air cleaner on my '57 Bird.
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By 56_Fairlane - 9 Years Ago
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Rusty are absolutely sure that no one painted it body color. Unless you've owned it since new, there's guarantee it came that way from the factory or it wasn't done by the dealer by special request.
There seems to be a general consensus that they all came in argent from the factory.
As far as it being the same color as the air cleaner, it's hard to say if they were. The argent of the air cleaner appears to have a dull finish to it.
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By Rusty_S85 - 9 Years Ago
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56_Fairlane (3/5/2015)
Rusty are absolutely sure that no one painted it body color. Unless you've owned it since new, there's guarantee it came that way from the factory or it wasn't done by the dealer by special request. There seems to be a general consensus that they all came in argent from the factory. As far as it being the same color as the air cleaner, it's hard to say if they were. The argent of the air cleaner appears to have a dull finish to it.
Well my grandfather bought the car new. He drove it till he passed away March 1986 then the car sat till I got a hold of it. I have all records of work done to the car back to 1963 ontop of it. The car was never repainted and no body work ever done. There is parts on the frame even that has body color pain still clinging to the frame even though everyone claims all frames were painted black. If that was the case then how does mine have blue paint on the frame. Some have told me its over spray but the car was never repainted and the bodies were already painted when they were installed from all the research I have done. Not to mention if it was just over spray with the amount of rust on the frame, there should be zero evidence of blue paint remaining but there is still and its thick enough that it was intentionally done.
I would have to say the factory did it because I know the history of the car.
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By 56_Fairlane - 9 Years Ago
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That is really unusual about the body paint on the frame. Not to nit pick since you don't have records before '63, but were you old enough to remember anything about the car before then?
I mean the only way body color paint gets on the frame is by overspray. My 56's frame is all black where the original paint still sticks on it. There is no other color on it anywhere.
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By Rusty_S85 - 9 Years Ago
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56_Fairlane (3/5/2015)
That is really unusual about the body paint on the frame. Not to nit pick since you don't have records before '63, but were you old enough to remember anything about the car before then? I mean the only way body color paint gets on the frame is by overspray. My 56's frame is all black where the original paint still sticks on it. There is no other color on it anywhere.
No I was not born till Dec, 1985. But my mother and her two brothers (my two uncles) which was my grandfathers kids know the car back before 1963. They said nothing was done to the car paint wise. But I do agree body paint can only get on the frame via overspray. But this does not look like overspray from how thick it is.
Below is a few pictures of the blue paint on the frame and one of the photos you can see its in an area where overspray couldn't reach. The only thing I really wonder is if maybe the paint got on the frame via hitting a paint can in the road for instance. But what are the odds of it being blue like the car. Further more what are the odds that it will get on the frame but not on the gravel/splash pan that sits under the front of the engine. I have to rule this out though and as far as how I will refinish this I might just go back black with it because I honestly do not know how I could get a durable basecoat/clear coat on the frame that will last with the abuses the frame receives from actually being drove.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s8/Rusty_S85/1956%20Ford%20Fairlane%20Town%20Sedan/1956FordFairlaneTownSedan40-1.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s8/Rusty_S85/1956%20Ford%20Fairlane%20Town%20Sedan/1956FordFairlaneTownSedan39-1.jpg
I circled the areas that have blue paint on them. The paint does appear a little dark for Diamond Blue, but due to age and being on the frame its hard to say if the tint would have changed or not.
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By Ted - 9 Years Ago
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I tend to agree with others that the paint you see is not from the factory. My vote goes for some paint and/or body work being performed to the car prior to 1963.
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By Rusty_S85 - 9 Years Ago
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Ted (3/6/2015)
I tend to agree with others that the paint you see is not from the factory. My vote goes for some paint and/or body work being performed to the car prior to 1963.
It is possible, but everyone that I asked that knew of the car since new said its never been wrecked and never been in for body work/paint. Just general mechanical maintence is what everyone has told me. I asked a few people that goes to the reunion about it and that's what they told me today.
I would have to agree with them because if it was simple over spray why is it such a thick amount of paint. Further more it is on the back side of the front most cross member which wouldn't have happened that thick if it was simply over spray. I still haven't decided I am leaning towards Eastwoods Chassis black to do the frame in but I do believe some factories might have did things a little different than others.
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By Jim Rowe - 9 Years Ago
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Rusty,
As long as you are not concours showing the car, it doesn't matter.
I do know from personal ownership of no less than 3 1956 Fords.
First was a Fairlane Sunliner I purchased in 1962 it had a silver gravel shield and black frame.
Second was a 56 Fairlane Club sedan original painted white at factory, two toned at the dealer. This was quite common. It also had a black frame & silver gravel shield.
Third car a 56 Fairlane Club sedan. It was also white from the factory. It was also two-toned by the dealer. Gravel shield silver and the frame was all black.
That's my 5 bucks.
Jim
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By lovefordgalaxie - 9 Years Ago
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I beat they painted the frame at the same time they painted the splash shield, since the paint is on the front of the car. Never bothered to mask the frame...
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By chiggerfarmer - 9 Years Ago
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I worked at a Ford dealer from late 60's to late 80's. We did a lot of minor painting and touch up work to new cars that either made it past the factory quality control guys, or more often were damaged in transit. It would not be unusual to buy a new car that had paint work done to it at the dealer. Buyers would not necessarily be told of it unless they asked.
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By Rusty_S85 - 9 Years Ago
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To me it does matter as I am putting this back the way it was when it left the dealership lot to preserve the history of the car.
I already know the etchings in the glass does not add up as per the glass shop I talked to that does the oem etchings. They claim they never seen any with the codes mine has as it should be a letter and a number not two letters like mine are. Like wise these were never replaced but I am tracking down a line to a place that can make the stenciles for me so I can reproduce this as the glass has to be replaced.
As far as the paint goes, I could go argent silver on the panel but I highly doubt this one was as the color is just a simple diamond blue mono tone exterior. I also do not even know if I will stick with the blue painted frame as it will not be as durable as some of the black frame paints I can get but I also hate the thought of erasing history like that like it never happened.
Now as far to it being shown I would like to win a couple trophies with the car and I do not know how I will show it as either way I go will result in me not really winning either way I cut it as non concourse shows always tends to go to the ones with the most money and most chrome and modern features in a vehicle as they don't have sub classes to the ones Ive been to. Then you have the concourse where people spend ones life savings on procuring NOS parts to put their trailer queen together.
So you are right long as I am not going concourse showing I can paint it how ever I want.
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